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== Corrections ==
 
 
<gallery caption="For update" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
 
Tver.svg|Adding this here as well so I don't forget to update it. Edit: agreed, my recent "update" was more of a small fix so the current arms is more-less a token until properly made/updated.
 
Blank.svg|This is merely a little heads up that I am revamping quartered eagles and other smaller eagles so they fit the area of the shield better. Similar to the quartered lions.
 
Mississippi.svg|CoA is out of alignment, stroke of the letters, escutcheon should be standardized (we have Alabama arms) and the eagle hand holding arrows should be fixed.
 
Cossack Hetmanate.svg|Needs bunch of corrections, stroke, etc. probably an entire re-work of the main charge
 
Magnus Vasa.svg|griffon wing
 
Johan Vasa.svg|griffon wing
 
 
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==New Arms requests==
 
==New Arms requests==
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==Livro requests==
 
 
'''Lago''' - Arms of [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Lago_zpsx7tfsouc.png Lago] - no need for elaboration, the image pretty much speaks for itself<br>
 
'''Gil Vantvisyet''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Gil%20Vantvisyet_zpsrv9x56c3.png Livro image], quartered Or and Azure, not sure what those things are in 1st and 4th quarter but it sure looks like some kind of shoes. 2nd and 3rd quarter a moor's head, over all a cross gules hollow argent<br>
 
 
'''Pachecho Livro''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Pachecho%20Livro_zpsq0um2unb.png source image]. The arms of Pachecho in Livro seems like a hybrid of several cauldron variants we have: [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Pacheco.svg Pachecho], [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Manrique_de_Lara.svg Manrique de Lara], [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Lara.svg Lara Ancient]. The elements on the cauldron seem to be vaire nebuly similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Vasconcelos_Livro.svg Vasconcelos] f.e.<br>
 
 
'''Gabriel Goncalves''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Gabriel%20Gonccedilalves_zpsitndrsm4.png source image]. Arms is double-headed eagle holding a moor's head, all withing a "rope bordure" similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Eca_Livro.svg Eca] i.e. [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Eça.svg Eça arms].<br>
 
 
'''Botos''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Botos_zpsjoesak7u.png source image] shows a [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Ivar_Nilsson.svg shield divided per saltire] Or and gules, Or quarters charged with a Moor's head, gules quarters charged with argent towers<br>
 
 
'''Viveiro''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Viveiro_zpsluq6qpcm.png source image] shows a shield quartered. 1st and 4th quarter are similar to Guzman or [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Manrique_de_Lara_Najera.svg Manrique de Lara cauldorns] (not so many serpent heads), cauldrons are completely chequy argent and gules on a azure field, bordure ermine. 1st and 3rd quarter are a variant of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Pedro_Fajardo_y_Chacón.svg Fajardo quarters], water part seems smaller on this variant than on the example linked, while the branches are intertwined in a saltire.<br>
 
 
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==Comment==
 
 
Question: is the [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Petit.svg Petit arms] of the Anglo-Norman-Irish ''Le Petit'' family (feudal barons of Dunboyne) of Ireland? I've been looking for these before but couldn't find anything specific. If it is then great! :)<br>Oh and also the new de Lucy and Gadda arms you uploaded...well you should link them bcz I have no idea what they are lol...I know Thomas de Lucy (azure and argent) was most likely the arms of Thomas who was the younger brother of Anthony, 1st Baron Lucy but I don't know the other ones...specifically [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Geffrey_de_Lucy.svg this one] and [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Thomas_de_Lucy_of_Cockermouth.svg this one], are they variants? Also the ancient arms...the thing is there were at last three Lucy lines that passed through heiresses who had childrent who adopted the de Lucy name. Cheers. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 16:47, 25 May 2020 (CEST)
 
 
Forgot to answer this, the Petit arms is the arms of Petit/Petyt, lords of Ardevora in Cornwall.<br>
 
You linked all the Gädda/Gedda arms correct. :)
 
Regarding the Lucy arms, I haven't had time to unravel the family yet but here are the sources for the uploaded arms:
 
===<u>Some feudal coats of arms from heraldic rolls, 1298-1418 / Joseph Foster. 1902</u>===
 
'''Lucy, Sir Geffrey'''<br>
 
(E. 11. Roll) bore, gules, two lucies pileways argent; Holland Roll. <br>
 
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'''Lucy, Geffrey de, of Cockermouth, baron '''<br>
 
1297-bore, gules, three lucies hauriant 2 and 1 argent ( F.) Ashmole Roll; or, <br>
 
in Arden and Glover Rolls-ascribed to RICHARD in the Grimaldi Roll, and so carried <br>
 
at the siege of Rouen 1418, THOMAS, differenced at the second Dunstable tournament <br>
 
1334 with a label azure and a bordure engrailed argent (F.); also by ANTHONY or AMERY <br>
 
in Jenyns' Ordinary-4 lucies in blason. Sir WILLIAM bore the paternal coat crusily argent; Harl. 1481, ff. 59-65.
 
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'''Lucy, Sir Amery (AYMER or EMERY) '''<br>
 
Kent-(H. 111, Roll) bore, azure crusily and three lucies 2 and 1 hauriant or; Parliamentary, <br>
 
Howard, St. George and Dering Rolls. Sir THOMAS, of Kent. bore the lucies argent; Parliamentary Roll
 
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'''Lucy Geoffrey of Kent, '''<br>
 
(H. III. Roll) bore, gules,  crusily ol three lucies  and 2 and 1 or <br>
 
(F.); Parliamentary Roll, & REYNOLD differenced with a label (3) azure ; Surrey Roll. <br>
 
See Harl. 1481 ff. 59, 65.
 
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===<u>Lucy Arms and Full Pedigree Chart 950-1900</u>===
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'''Rothschild''' - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great_coat_of_arms_of_Rothschild_family.svg example 1], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rotschilds_arms.jpg example 2], [https://localfoodandwine.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cherie-du-vin-rothschild-crest-1.jpg example 3], [https://media.gettyimages.com/id/629571475/photo/family-crest-of-the-rothschild-banking-family.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=i7lOj4MkOVqO_WHH-b0IFmlL4FJbyvMXymCOkBycD-I= example 4]
https://rickmansworthherts.com/arms3.htm
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[[User:JSpuller|JSpuller]] ([[User talk:JSpuller|talk]]) 11:22, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
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Latest revision as of 15:13, 26 December 2023

New Arms requests

Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4