User talk:NSamson

Actually Valois-Anjou did use the modern variant of Anjou arms. They were the ones to introduce it, namely Rene of Anjou in his final arms variant (1470-1480) as esceutcheon and it was most likely used by both his son and his grandson (his heirs to the duchy) as their simple arms.

No one says Anjou moderne was their family arms, it was not. But it was the modernized arms used by Rene in the context as Duke of Anjou and it was him who introduced the arms in the first place. His son died the very year when the new arms was introduced (probably a bit before even) so yeah, ofc he never used it since he was dead. His grandson never became Duke of Anjou but inherited Lorraine instead and ofc could not use something which was not his. And his nephew who did succeeded him was a duke barely over a year. So basically we have Rene who was the last proper Duke of Anjou introducing new arms and used it. What is the problem?