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Dering_115_William Maufee.svg|115. William Maufee<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chiddingly<br>''willem maufe''</span>
Dering_115_William Maufee.svg|115. William Maufee<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chiddingly<br>''willem maufe''</span>
Dering_116_Robert de Cockfield.svg|116. Robert de Cockfield<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Hangleton and Aldrington<br>''robert de cokefeld''</span>
Dering_116_Robert de Cockfield.svg|116. Robert de Cockfield<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Hangleton and Aldrington<br>''robert de cokefeld''</span>
Blank_Azure.svg|117. Robert le Poer<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">[[:File:Heralds 268 Robert le Poer.svg|Unfinished]]<br>Lord of Lampham and Witham<br>''robert le poer''</span><!-- le Poer from Essex and Sussex = azure three boar's heads or (canting arms for Bere Boer->Poer->Power). cf Herald's Roll 268 which Brault and Clemmensen points as finished version of this entry. The version with Leopard's heads has already been noted as confounded by Clemmensen. But more importantly, such quartered arms would be way out of place here so not possible -->
Blank_Azure.svg|117. Robert le Poer<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">[[:File:FW268 Le Poer.svg|Unfinished]]<br>Lord of Lampham and Witham<br>''robert le poer''</span><!-- le Poer from Essex and Sussex = azure three boar's heads or (canting arms for Bere Boer->Poer->Power). cf Herald's Roll 268 which Brault and Clemmensen points as finished version of this entry. The version with Leopard's heads has already been noted as confounded by Clemmensen. But more importantly, such quartered arms would be way out of place here so not possible -->
Dering_118_Filiol.svg|118. William Filiol<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wartling<br>''willem fitzlel''</span><!-- I'm ultimately siding with Brault. The identical arms in FW 352 are probably just a coincidence : William Filiol of Wartling could have adopted a variant of the Chaunceux and the crosslet just be the usual addition of the time. Main branch of Kelvedon, Essex (John) at the time is Vair a canton Gules but other instances of Filiols with Sable three cups Or or Argent (Richard in St Georges' Roll). There are still some Filiols in Sussex after that time, notably a Wm Filiol, avowee of Hartling in early 14th c. // Also Giles de Fiennes FW271 doesnt appear in Dering while Wm Filiol doesnt appear in Heralds // Last point : Filiol is a corruption of Filleul (their early seals represent a baptism) which is french for Godson which explains the form fitz in the name -->
Dering_118_Filiol.svg|118. William Filiol<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wartling<br>''willem fitzlel''</span><!-- I'm ultimately siding with Brault. The identical arms in FW 352 are probably just a coincidence : William Filiol of Wartling could have adopted a variant of the Chaunceux and the crosslet just be the usual addition of the time. Main branch of Kelvedon, Essex (John) at the time is Vair a canton Gules but other instances of Filiols with Sable three cups Or or Argent (Richard in St Georges' Roll). There are still some Filiols in Sussex after that time, notably a Wm Filiol, avowee of Hartling in early 14th c. // Also Giles de Fiennes FW271 doesnt appear in Dering while Wm Filiol doesnt appear in Heralds // Last point : Filiol is a corruption of Filleul (their early seals represent a baptism) which is french for Godson which explains the form fitz in the name -->
Dering_119_William de Saint Leger.svg|119. William de Saint Leger<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Sowkerness, Muntfield and Hollingrove<br>''willem seint leger''</span>
Dering_119_William de Saint Leger.svg|119. William de Saint Leger<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Sowkerness, Muntfield and Hollingrove<br>''willem seint leger''</span>
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Dering 292 Gilles de Rochefort.svg|292. Guy de Rochefort<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Rochefort<br>''giles de rocheford''</span><!-- Guy de Rochefort (sur Mer), cf VER 452 -->
Dering 292 Gilles de Rochefort.svg|292. Guy de Rochefort<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Rochefort<br>''giles de rocheford''</span><!-- Guy de Rochefort (sur Mer), cf VER 452 -->
Dering 293 Thibaut de Marly.svg|293. Thibaut de Marly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mondreville<br>''tebaud de mareli''</span>
Dering 293 Thibaut de Marly.svg|293. Thibaut de Marly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mondreville<br>''tebaud de mareli''</span>
Dering_294_Anseau de l'Isle Adam.svg|294. Anseau de l'Isle Adam<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Boury<br>''ansel de vile''</span><!-- Confounded (Martlets/Mullets) -->
Dering_294_Anseau de l'Isle Adam.svg|294. Anseau de l'Isle Adam<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Boury<br>[[:File:Anseau IV de l'Isle-Adam.svg|Confounded]]<br>''ansel de vile''</span><!-- Confounded (Martlets/Mullets) -->
Wijnbergen_1143_Etienne_de_Mont_Saint_Jean.svg|295. Etienne de Mont Saint Jean<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mont Saint Jean and Saumaise<br>''stefne de muntjoye''</span>
Wijnbergen_1143_Etienne_de_Mont_Saint_Jean.svg|295. Etienne de Mont Saint Jean<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mont Saint Jean and Saumaise<br>''stefne de muntjoye''</span>
Dering_296_Guillaume Crespin.svg|296. Guillaume VI Crespin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bec Crespin<br>''willeame crepin''</span>
Dering_296_Guillaume Crespin.svg|296. Guillaume VI Crespin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bec Crespin<br>''willeame crepin''</span>
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Dering_299_Geoffroy de Marmande.svg|299. Geoffroy de Marmande<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''giffrei de meremond''</span>
Dering_299_Geoffroy de Marmande.svg|299. Geoffroy de Marmande<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''giffrei de meremond''</span>
Dering_300_Baudoin de Dampierre.svg|300. Baudoin de Dampierre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''baudewyn de flandres''</span>
Dering_300_Baudoin de Dampierre.svg|300. Baudoin de Dampierre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''baudewyn de flandres''</span>
Dering_301_Waleran de Luxembourg.svg|301. Waléran de Luxembourg<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ligny and La Roche<br>''walram de lucemborch''</span><!-- Confounded -->
Dering_301_Waleran de Luxembourg.svg|301. Waléran de Luxembourg<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ligny and La Roche<br>[[:File:Luxembourg-Ligny Ancient.svg|Confounded]]<br>''walram de lucemborch''</span><!-- Confounded -->
Trazegnies_Ancient.svg|302. Othon IV de Trazegnies<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Trazegnies and Silly<br>''otes trasenie''</span>
Trazegnies_Ancient.svg|302. Othon IV de Trazegnies<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Trazegnies and Silly<br>''otes trasenie''</span>
Dering_303_Raoul de Clermont-Nesle.svg|303. Raoul II de Clermont-Nesle<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Nesle and Ailly<br>Constable of France<br>''rauf de nele''</span>
Dering_303_Raoul de Clermont-Nesle.svg|303. Raoul II de Clermont-Nesle<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Nesle and Ailly<br>Constable of France<br>''rauf de nele''</span>

Revision as of 12:24, 23 July 2019

The Dering Roll is named after one of its owners, Sir Edward Dering, Lieutenant of Dover Castle, who came into possession of the manuscript in the 17th century.
Made around 1279 for the Constable of Dover Castle, Stephen de Penchester, it is an early depiction of english baronage during the reign of King Edward I.
Many of the 324 individuals represented in the roll hold lands in either Kent (1-84) or Sussex (85+), while a continental program (289+) completes the work.
The manuscript was falsified by Dering who replaced the arms of Nicholas de Criel (item 61, restored here with his father's arms) with those of his own fictitious ancestor, Richard Fitz Dering.