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| | ==Information regarding uploads== |
| | By June 29th, 2025 uploads have been halted again due to uploads of too many incorrect files. |
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| <gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;"> | | <gallery caption="Update" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;"> |
| Matthew Arundell of Wardour.svg|Arches quarters update. Dynham quarterd Arches as heirs, Arundell quartered Dynahm (with Arches) as heir of the heir
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| ==New Arms requests==
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| '''Illeshazy''' or rather '''Illésházy''' - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II3.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/COA_Illeshazy_Miklos.jpg example 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II4.jpg example 3]., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Gaspar_Thurzo_Ilona.jpg example 4]. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: [https://static-cdn.arcanum.hu/nfo-resources/siebmacher_pic/siebmacher/b826-197-01.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Trencin_hradny_relief_z_roku_1609_Illeshazy.jpg example 2], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/a/a8/Ill%C3%A9sh%C3%A1zy_Istv%C3%A1n_n%C3%A1dor_pecs%C3%A9tje.jpg example 3], [https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/kozterkep/photos/u3952-a39801-5df54032d2c0c-b4d9c14bbe8592360e90aff9_1.jpg example 4], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II2.jpg example 5], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Keresztelo_Janos_Batthyany_Szidonia.jpg example 6], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy1.jpg example 7], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy2.jpg example 8], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_I1.jpg example 9], etc, etc.<br>
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| '''Cavalcabo''' - Lords of Cremona, Marquises of Viadana. Branch of the famed Obertenghi family, later known as Welf or Welf-Este. The arms is a [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Maguire.svg knight riding] a bull. [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NFoAAOSwGYVW~qKl/s-l1600.jpg example 1], [https://www.beweb.chiesacattolica.it/benistorici/bene/6252636/Bottega+di+Romeri+C.+%281646%29%2C+Angeli+con+stemma+Bonfioli+Cavalcab%C3%B2 example 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CoA_Cavalcab%C3%B2_family_(Cremona,_Lombardia,_Italy).svg example 3], [https://servizi.ct2.it/ssl/wiki/index.php?title=File:Cavalcab%C3%B2_(Spreti).jpg example 4], etc.<br><br>
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| '''Tudor Fynchan''' - Also called Theodor or Theodore. Senior line descended from eldest son of Ednyfed Fychan from his 1st marriage. Their arms was a modification of Ednyfed Fynchan arms and is blazoned as "gules, a chevron between three men's heads in profile argent". The arms is basically that of Ednyfed but the heads are in profile (similar to Degenberg and Heidenberg) as opposed to affrontee and completely white, the chevron is also plain without the ermine spots. In general arms is similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:John_Wenlock.svg this arms] but with normal heads instead of moor heads.<br>
| | Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4 |
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| '''Griffith Penrhyn''' - same line as above but from younger descendant in later generations. Arms is blazoned as: "gules, a chevron ermine, three old men's heads couped at the neck in profile proper". Difference between the previous arms and these are that the chevron is ermine and that the heads are proper, but described as "old heads" means the hair and beard is white. [https://d2pzb3b6cafvxw.cloudfront.net/griffith/middle_images/griffith-nocrest-3.png example] <br>
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| '''Williams Vaynol''' - Lords and Baronets of Vaynol. The blazon is: "gules, a chevron ermine between three Saracens heads couped proper". Again same arms as previous but the heads are now colored "proper"...i.e. proper skin color, proper hair (brown) color [https://www.ireland101.com/images/tribe_crests/williams_cochwillan_penrhyn_wales.gif example here]...note that the file is named after Penrhyn but it is wrong, this is the arms of Vaynol branch.<br>
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| '''Williams Penrhyn''' - Line from younger scions of Williams line as previous. They were Lords of Cochwillan and later Baronets of Penrhyn. Arms is: "Gules, a chevron ermine between three Saracen heads affrontee couped at shoulders proper". The arms is very similar to Ednyfed original arms however the heads have an extension, all in all the way it should be shown is [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Vaughan_of_Bredwardine.svg similar to Vaughan arms] where you can see the shoulders. <br>
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| | == Aditional element request == |
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| | Hey! I was wondering if there's a full scale version of an Alerion I could use for the Lower Alba/Nilfgaard coat of arms and the Alba Division banner. The one currently available in heraldic elements doesn't scale properly with regards to the stroke, so it would be great if there's a full scale version. |
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| ==Comment==
| | Thanks, AncientConqueror |
| So what exactly is wrong with the files I am uploading now? I am editing in illustrator, following your guidelines and you still reupload every single file I post even for a simple recolor...you even reuploaded the files I literally reuploaded that you made and uploaded under erroneous names... [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 14:06, 11 February 2022 (CET)
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| Your files are still "corrupt", meaning strokes are expanded to elements. So until you manage to save files correctly I have to fix those as I can't use "corrupted" files.
| | == upload request == |
| | <BR><BR>-asset for a naval crown, used in the coat of arms of the Earls of Northesk, the Knowles baronets of Lovell Hill and of British Hong Kong |
| | -''Landschap Drenthe'' https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_van_Drenthe_(heraldiek) which was part of the dutch republic |
| | <BR><BR>-''free commune of volterra'' https://www.araldicacivica.it/comune/Volterra/ which depicts a gryphon on top of a basilisc |
| | Thanks again for all the work |
| | <BR>--[[User:Merula-Mostepic|Merula-Mostepic]] ([[User talk:Merula-Mostepic|talk]]) 05:43, 5 November 2025 (EST) |
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| <gallery caption="Corrupt vs fully editable files" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
| | == Upload errors == |
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| | Hi, I noticed the heart in the file House of the King.svg is warped for some reason and I am unable to find the reason why. I am also wondering if you know why when uploading svg files they are saved as the wrong size even though they are saved as the correct 820x952 pixel size. |
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| So I am editing (using YOUR DIRECTIONS) in Illustrator and you tell me the files are still "corrupted"? So how about you actually post proper instructions with visual examples of how to save a file that would suit you and not me (and others) trying to "manage"? [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 14:29, 6 March 2022 (CET)
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| | Eshogun671 |
| | <br>[[User: Eshogun671|Eshogun671]] |
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| This might help. These are the slightly different settings I've long been using and never had any compatibility problem. I found those to be more consistent & tolerant when uploading files on the website (had problems with Style Attributes since AI 2020 I think or even earlier).<br><br>
| | Hello Eshogun, |
| <gallery caption="SVG Options" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
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| --[[User:Solo|Solo]] ([[User talk:Solo|talk]]) 17:14, 6 March 2022 (CET)
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| | You are saving files "incorrectly", be sure that 'Responsive' is not checked when saving the .SVG file |
| | <br>[[User:JSpuller| JSpuller]]([[User talk:JSpuller|talk]]) 19:37, 18 December 2025 |
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| Hey Joakim,<br>
| | == Recent Uploads == |
| About the "ancient arms" of Flanders. Those have little to do with Flanders at least at the time of the 1st crusade (and arguably later either), as they are simply the arms of the Charbogne-Armoises family (technically it's even a duplicate of Wijnbergen 864 Armoises.svg) adopted by Jeanne de Rethel (stepdaughter of Nicolas de Charbogne - count of Rethel de j.u. - who had married his mother Isabelle de Grandpré) and introduced those in Flanders after she married Louis de Dampierre.<br>
| | Hi Spuller, |
| They were possibly later promoted/revived with a political agenda as they are somewhat reminiscent of the arms of the Duchy of Burgundy (a convenient attribution) : those have been suggested to be a burgundian fabrication by more than one author in the past and it's not too far fetched that they could have been rebranded as such for that very reason in late medieval armorials.<br>
| | I wanted to apologize for my recent upload of House Roote, that made the site crash, I'm pretty new working with Illustrator. |
| Despite what wikipedia says, the only certain thing here is that the Balduinids and their successors up to Philippe d'Alsace (his seal being the first testimony of any heraldic practice in that comital line) never used those and are absolutely not related to the Armoises-Charbogne family (of rather modest origin otherwise). In the end, the traditionnal lion arms are a much safer bet if any 1st crusade attribution is to be made (other families simply feature arms from their first known testimonies instead of a blank shield so why would it be different in this case ?)--[[User:Solo|Solo]] ([[User talk:Solo|talk]]) 22:42, 26 May 2022 (CEST)
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| Can provide some information on the Alexander Arches and William Arches arms you uploaded...who are those two? Trying to identify is hard enough...even harder with such family as Arches which had numerous branches with little to almost no information on them. Thx. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 15:36, 30 August 2022 (CEST)
| | Thanks, DerDennis16 |
Information regarding uploads
By June 29th, 2025 uploads have been halted again due to uploads of too many incorrect files.
Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4
Aditional element request
Hey! I was wondering if there's a full scale version of an Alerion I could use for the Lower Alba/Nilfgaard coat of arms and the Alba Division banner. The one currently available in heraldic elements doesn't scale properly with regards to the stroke, so it would be great if there's a full scale version.
Thanks, AncientConqueror
upload request
-asset for a naval crown, used in the coat of arms of the Earls of Northesk, the Knowles baronets of Lovell Hill and of British Hong Kong
-Landschap Drenthe https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_van_Drenthe_(heraldiek) which was part of the dutch republic
-free commune of volterra https://www.araldicacivica.it/comune/Volterra/ which depicts a gryphon on top of a basilisc
Thanks again for all the work
--Merula-Mostepic (talk) 05:43, 5 November 2025 (EST)
Upload errors
Hi, I noticed the heart in the file House of the King.svg is warped for some reason and I am unable to find the reason why. I am also wondering if you know why when uploading svg files they are saved as the wrong size even though they are saved as the correct 820x952 pixel size.
Thank you,
Eshogun671
Eshogun671
Hello Eshogun,
You are saving files "incorrectly", be sure that 'Responsive' is not checked when saving the .SVG file
JSpuller(talk) 19:37, 18 December 2025
Recent Uploads
Hi Spuller,
I wanted to apologize for my recent upload of House Roote, that made the site crash, I'm pretty new working with Illustrator.
Thanks, DerDennis16
