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Dering 3 Robert de Crevquer.svg|3. Robert de Crevecoeur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chatham<br>''robert de crevquer''</span>
Dering 3 Robert de Crevquer.svg|3. Robert de Crevecoeur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chatham<br>''robert de crevquer''</span>
Leybourne.svg|4. William de Leybourne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Leyborne and Elmham<br>''willeame de leiborne''</span>
Leybourne.svg|4. William de Leybourne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Leyborne and Elmham<br>''willeame de leiborne''</span>
Dering 5 Roger de Leybourne.svg|5. Roger de Leybourne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Aylesford<br>''roger de leiborne''</span>
Leybourne Aylesford.svg|5. Roger de Leybourne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Aylesford<br>''roger de leiborne''</span>
Stephen de Penchester.svg|6. Stephen de Penchester<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Penshurst and Allington<br>Constable of Dover<br>Warden of Cinque Ports<br>''estefne de pencestre''</span>
Stephen de Penchester.svg|6. Stephen de Penchester<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Penshurst and Allington<br>Constable of Dover<br>Warden of Cinque Ports<br>''estefne de pencestre''</span>
Dering 7 Robert de Colville.svg|7. Robert de Colville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Carlton and Coldham<br>''robert de cauvile''</span><!-- cf FW154 -->
Dering 7 Robert de Colville.svg|7. Robert de Colville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Carlton and Coldham<br>''robert de cauvile''</span><!-- cf FW154 -->
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Dering 98 Simon de Pierpont.svg|98. Simon de Pierpont<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Upwick<br>''symon de perpont''</span>
Dering 98 Simon de Pierpont.svg|98. Simon de Pierpont<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Upwick<br>''symon de perpont''</span>
Dering 99 Waleran de Monceux.svg|99. Waleran de Monceux<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Compton and Herstmonceux<br>''walram de de muntceaus''</span>
Dering 99 Waleran de Monceux.svg|99. Waleran de Monceux<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Compton and Herstmonceux<br>''walram de de muntceaus''</span>
Dering 100 William de Etchingham.svg|100. William de Etchingham<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Etchingham and Padbury<br>''willem de echingham''</span>
Etchingham.svg|100. William de Etchingham<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Etchingham and Padbury<br>''willem de echingham''</span>
Dering 101 Richard le Waleys.svg|101. Richard le Waleys<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Glynde, Thanington and Buxted<br>''richard waleys''</span>
Dering 101 Richard le Waleys.svg|101. Richard le Waleys<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Glynde, Thanington and Buxted<br>''richard waleys''</span>
Dering 102 John de Percy.svg|102. John de Percy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Folk and Up Cerne<br>''jon de perci''</span>
Dering 102 John de Percy.svg|102. John de Percy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Folk and Up Cerne<br>''jon de perci''</span>
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Dering 116 Robert de Cockfield.svg|116. Robert de Cockfield<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Hangleton and Aldrington<br>''robert de cokefeld''</span>
Dering 116 Robert de Cockfield.svg|116. Robert de Cockfield<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Hangleton and Aldrington<br>''robert de cokefeld''</span>
Blank Azure.svg|117. Robert le Poer<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">[[:File:FW268 Le Poer.svg|Unfinished]]<br>Lord of Lampham and Witham<br>''robert le poer''</span><!-- le Poer from Essex and Sussex = azure three boar's heads or (canting arms for Bere Boer->Poer->Power). cf Herald's Roll 268 which Brault and Clemmensen points as finished version of this entry. The version with Leopard's heads has already been noted as confounded by Clemmensen. But more importantly, such quartered arms would be way out of place here so not possible -->
Blank Azure.svg|117. Robert le Poer<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">[[:File:FW268 Le Poer.svg|Unfinished]]<br>Lord of Lampham and Witham<br>''robert le poer''</span><!-- le Poer from Essex and Sussex = azure three boar's heads or (canting arms for Bere Boer->Poer->Power). cf Herald's Roll 268 which Brault and Clemmensen points as finished version of this entry. The version with Leopard's heads has already been noted as confounded by Clemmensen. But more importantly, such quartered arms would be way out of place here so not possible -->
Dering_118_Filiol.svg|118. William Filiol<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wartling<br>''willem fitzlel''</span><!-- I'm ultimately siding with Brault. The identical arms in FW 352 are probably just a coincidence : William Filiol of Wartling could have adopted a variant of the Chaunceux and the crosslet just be the usual addition of the time. Main branch of Kelvedon, Essex (John) at the time is Vair a canton Gules but other instances of Filiols with Sable three cups Or or Argent (Richard in St Georges' Roll). There are still some Filiols in Sussex after that time, notably a Wm Filiol, avowee of Hartling in early 14th c. // Also Giles de Fiennes FW271 doesnt appear in Dering while Wm Filiol doesnt appear in Heralds // Last point : Filiol is a corruption of Filleul (their early seals represent a baptism) which is french for Godson which explains the form fitz in the name -->
Dering 118 Filiol.svg|118. William Filiol<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wartling<br>''willem fitzlel''</span><!-- I'm ultimately siding with Brault. The identical arms in FW 352 are probably just a coincidence : William Filiol of Wartling could have adopted a variant of the Chaunceux and the crosslet just be the usual addition of the time. Main branch of Kelvedon, Essex (John) at the time is Vair a canton Gules but other instances of Filiols with Sable three cups Or or Argent (Richard in St Georges' Roll). There are still some Filiols in Sussex after that time, notably a Wm Filiol, avowee of Hartling in early 14th c. // Also Giles de Fiennes FW271 doesnt appear in Dering while Wm Filiol doesnt appear in Heralds // Last point : Filiol is a corruption of Filleul (their early seals represent a baptism) which is french for Godson which explains the form fitz in the name -->
Dering 119 William de Saint Leger.svg|119. William de Saint Leger<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Sowkerness, Muntfield and Hollingrove<br>''willem seint leger''</span>
Dering 119 William de Saint Leger.svg|119. William de Saint Leger<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Sowkerness, Muntfield and Hollingrove<br>''willem seint leger''</span>
Dering 120 John Pecche.svg|120. John Pecche<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dunchurch, Wormleighton and Hampton<br>''jon peche''</span>
Dering 120 John Pecche.svg|120. John Pecche<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dunchurch, Wormleighton and Hampton<br>''jon peche''</span>
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Montalt.svg|212. Roger de Monthault<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mold, Hawarden and Kingsbury<br>'' ''</span>
Montalt.svg|212. Roger de Monthault<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mold, Hawarden and Kingsbury<br>'' ''</span>
Somery.svg|213. Roger de Somery<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dudley and Dinas Powis<br>''roger de sumeri''</span>
Somery.svg|213. Roger de Somery<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dudley and Dinas Powis<br>''roger de sumeri''</span>
Despencer_Ancient.svg|214. Hugh le Despenser<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Loughborough<br>Earl of Winchester (1322)<br>''huge le despenser''</span>
Despencer Ancient.svg|214. Hugh le Despenser<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Loughborough<br>Earl of Winchester (1322)<br>''huge le despenser''</span>
John de Vescy.svg|215. John de Vescy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Alnwick and Malton<br>''jon de veci''</span>
John de Vescy.svg|215. John de Vescy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Alnwick and Malton<br>''jon de veci''</span>
Geoffrey_de_Lucy.svg|216. Geoffrey de Lucy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Newington and Dallington<br>''giffrei de lusci''</span>
Geoffrey de Lucy.svg|216. Geoffrey de Lucy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Newington and Dallington<br>''giffrei de lusci''</span>
Hastings_Ancient.svg|217. John de Hastings<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Elsing and Abergavenny<br>''jon de hastinge''</span>
Hastings Ancient.svg|217. John de Hastings<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Elsing and Abergavenny<br>''jon de hastinge''</span>
Dering 218 Robert de Quincy.svg|218. Robert de Quincy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''robert de quinci''</span><!-- Quincy-Winchester -->
Dering 218 Robert de Quincy.svg|218. Robert de Quincy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''robert de quinci''</span><!-- Quincy-Winchester -->
Compiegne 70 Richard de Brus.svg|219. Richard de Brus<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''richard de brus''</span><!-- Son of Robert V, died childess before his father. Unid. holdings -->
Compiegne 70 Richard de Brus.svg|219. Richard de Brus<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''richard de brus''</span><!-- Son of Robert V, died childess before his father. Unid. holdings -->
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Dunstanville.svg|274. Walter de Dunstanville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Castle Combe, Bepton and Isleham<br>''water de dotanvile''</span>
Dunstanville.svg|274. Walter de Dunstanville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Castle Combe, Bepton and Isleham<br>''water de dotanvile''</span>
Grandson.svg|275. Othon de Grandson<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Grandson<br>Justiciar of North Wales (1284-94)<br>''otes de grancon''</span>
Grandson.svg|275. Othon de Grandson<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Grandson<br>Justiciar of North Wales (1284-94)<br>''otes de grancon''</span>
Dering 276_William de Oddingseles.svg|276. William de Oddingseles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Maxstoke, Solihull and Pirton<br>Justiciar of Ireland (1295)<br>''willem dodingseles''</span>
Dering 276 William de Oddingseles.svg|276. William de Oddingseles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Maxstoke, Solihull and Pirton<br>Justiciar of Ireland (1295)<br>''willem dodingseles''</span>
Dering 277 Lawrence de Saint Maur.svg|277. Lawrence de Saint Maur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Little Chesterton, Rode and Bassingbourn<br>''lorenz de seint mor''</span>
Dering 277 Lawrence de Saint Maur.svg|277. Lawrence de Saint Maur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Little Chesterton, Rode and Bassingbourn<br>''lorenz de seint mor''</span>
Dering 278 Robert de Whitefield.svg|278. Robert de Whitefield<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''robert de witefeld''</span>
Dering 278 Robert de Whitefield.svg|278. Robert de Whitefield<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''robert de witefeld''</span>
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Dering 311 Willem van Rode.svg|311. Willem van Rode<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''willem de rode''</span><!-- Arms of the Inglemuster branch -->
Dering 311 Willem van Rode.svg|311. Willem van Rode<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''willem de rode''</span><!-- Arms of the Inglemuster branch -->
Boulers.svg|312. Maelin II de Méteren<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wingles<br>Constable of Flanders<br>''conestable de flandres''</span><!-- Arms of the Boulers family. His own arms have diff. tinctures and a canton overall -->
Boulers.svg|312. Maelin II de Méteren<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wingles<br>Constable of Flanders<br>''conestable de flandres''</span><!-- Arms of the Boulers family. His own arms have diff. tinctures and a canton overall -->
Dering 313 Roger_de_Rumes.svg|313. Roger de Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dossemer<br>''roger de rome''</span>
Dering 313 Roger de Rumes.svg|313. Roger de Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dossemer<br>''roger de rome''</span>
Dering 314 Jan van Schorisse.svg|314. Jan van Gaveren<br>alias ''van Schorisse''<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Schorisse<br>[[:File:Wijnbergen 1237 Jan van Gaveren.svg|Confounded]]<br>''jon descoreney''</span>
Dering 314 Jan van Schorisse.svg|314. Jan van Gaveren<br>alias ''van Schorisse''<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Schorisse<br>[[:File:Wijnbergen 1237 Jan van Gaveren.svg|Confounded]]<br>''jon descoreney''</span>
Dering 315 Oudenaarde.svg|315. Oudenaarde<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''sire de audenard''</span><!-- Unid. individual -->
Dering 315 Oudenaarde.svg|315. Oudenaarde<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''sire de audenard''</span><!-- Unid. individual -->

Latest revision as of 18:48, 23 August 2021

The Dering Roll is named after one of its owners, Sir Edward Dering, Lieutenant of Dover Castle, who came into possession of the manuscript in the 17th century.
Made around 1279 for the Constable of Dover Castle, Stephen de Penchester, it is an early depiction of english baronage during the reign of King Edward I.
Many of the 324 individuals represented in the roll hold lands in either Kent (1-84) or Sussex (85+), while a continental program (289+) completes the work.
The manuscript was falsified by Dering who replaced the arms of Nicholas de Criel (item 61, restored here with his father's arms) with those of his own fictitious ancestor, Richard Fitz Dering.