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FW662_Giffard.svg|662. Walter Giffard<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord Weare and Whitchurch<br>''water gyfforde''</span><!-- DE145 - Crowned variant -->
FW662_Giffard.svg|662. Walter Giffard<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord Weare and Whitchurch<br>''water gyfforde''</span><!-- DE145 - Crowned variant -->


FW663_Bertram.svg|663. Robert Bertram<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bothal<br>''robart bertram''</span><!-- Robert (III) Bertram of Bothal, Northumberland + 1302 - Not Mitford (extinct) & not necessarily confounded - While the Mitford line is descended and adopted arms derived from Havise de Baillol, the Bothal line is actually from a second marriage (Merlay, barry Argent & Gules) and inherited Bothal from the Gisulph family (unk. arms). There's no early testimony for Bertram of Bothal and the esc. voided design originally for Mitford may only have been readopted later (Parliamentary Roll 1312) -->
FW664_Martyn.svg|664. William Martyn<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Combe, Kemeys and Marwood<br>''william martyn''</span><!-- SG171 - Martyn/Martin/fitzMartin of Kemeys, Pembrokeshire - The ermine variant here could be derived from Mohun (cf 667) -->
Latimer.svg|665. William le Latimer<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Corby and Danby<br>''william latymer''</span><!-- SG54 -->
FW666_Martyn.svg|666. Warin Martyn<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''warryn martyn''</span><!-- Warin Martyn is mentionned w/ William in the service of King Edward in Wales, and later commanding welsh troops in Scotland. Probably his brother's arms (664 & 666 inverted by herald/copy) -->
Mohun Dunster.svg|667. John de Mohun<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Dunster<br>''johan moun''</span><!-- Mohun Ancient (before 1298) John (II) +1279. His widow Eleanor fitzPiers married William Martyn (above 664) the same year // The connection with Queen Eleanor of Castile (her ward) may be important to identify the next item which I believe belongs to one of her relatives -->
FW668_Mandeville.svg|668. John de Mandeville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Norton<br>''johan de mandevile''</span><!-- This item has been previously attributed to a confounded/inverted repeat of  John fitz John (+1275 of Shere, FW128) // It's far more likely to be Mandeville of Norton Mandeville. John (who actually goes by the name John de Mandeville unlike John fitz John) is the son of Ernald de Mandeville, 3rd husband (after 1220) of Galiena de Dammartin, heiress of Norton -->
John de Engaine.svg|669. William d'Engaine<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Stow and Waresley<br>''william langayne''</span><!-- Engaine of Engeynes Manor, Waresley, Huntingdonshire -->
<!-- William d'Engaine (670 in version A) is missing in the Herald's College version -->
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