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FW357.svg|357. Unidentified<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''le cunte oyl''</span><!-- This could be a corrupted spelling for a Count of Owe (Eu), associated w/ confounded Brienne Arms. Possibly for Alphonse de Brienne, an ancestor to both dynasties. Could also be another legendary character used as divider here (cf 60-62 and 586-591) -->
FW357.svg|357. Count of Eu<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Alphonse de Brienne<br>(†1270)<br>''le cunte oyl''</span><!-- This could be a corrupted spelling for a Count of Owe (Eu), associated w/ confounded Brienne Arms. Possibly for Alphonse de Brienne, a relative of both dynasties and the next (gdson of Agnès de Montfaucon). Confounded arms possibly a mix of both Alphonse's and his wife's arms // Could also be another legendary character used as divider here (cf 60-62 and 586-591) -->
FW358_Montfaucon.svg|358. Count of Montbéliard<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Amédée III de Montfaucon<br>Lord of Montfaucon<br>''le cunte mumbelord''</span><!-- Ancient arms of Montfaucon, until 1329 - Miscoloured, should be Arg/Gu -->
FW358_Montfaucon.svg|358. Count of Montbéliard<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Amédée III de Montfaucon<br>Lord of Montfaucon<br>''le cunte mumbelord''</span><!-- Ancient arms of Montfaucon, until 1329 - Miscoloured, should be Arg/Gu -->
Kleve_Ancient.svg|359. Count of Kleve<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Dietrich VI<br>''le cunte de gulke''</span><!-- Thierry VI 1275-1305 -->
Kleve_Ancient.svg|359. Count of Kleve<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Dietrich VI<br>''le cunte de gulke''</span><!-- Thierry VI 1275-1305 -->
FW360_Henneberg.svg|360. Count of Henneberg<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Heinrich IV<br>''le counte de henbarre''</span><!-- Henry II/IV, 1274-1317 - Henneberg-Hartenberg -->
FW360_Henneberg.svg|360. Count of Henneberg<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Heinrich IV<br>''le counte de henbarre''</span><!-- Henry II/IV, 1274-1317 - Henneberg-Hartenberg -->
Wijnbergen_1235_Guillaume_de_Dampierre.svg|361. Guillaume de Dampierre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Termonde<br>''william de fflanders''</span>
Wijnbergen_1235_Guillaume_de_Dampierre.svg|361. Guillaume de Dampierre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Termonde<br>''william de fflanders''</span>
FW362_Grailly.svg|362. Pierre de Grailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Landiras and Grilly<br>Viscount of Bénauges and Castillon<br>''peirs de grely''</span><!-- Pierre son of Jean de G., councillor of the king and seneschal of Guyenne -->
Grailly.svg|362. Pierre de Grailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Landiras and Grilly<br>Viscount of Bénauges and Castillon<br>''peirs de grely''</span><!-- Pierre son of Jean de G., councillor of the king and seneschal of Guyenne -->
FW363_Saint_Symphorien.svg|363. Guillaume Roussel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Saint Symphorien<br>''william de misery''</span><!-- Landiras/Saint Symphorien, orig. Vaud (Saint Saphorin) - He followed his brother in law Jean de Grailly in Gascony - The legend may hint to place of origin (Misery in Vaud ? related to Rodolphe de Muysier ?) -->
FW363_Saint_Symphorien.svg|363. Guillaume Roussel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Saint Symphorien<br>''william de misery''</span><!-- Landiras/Saint Symphorien, orig. Vaud (Saint Saphorin) - He followed his brother in law Jean de Grailly in Gascony - The legend may hint to place of origin (Misery in Vaud ? related to Rodolphe de Muysier ?) -->
FW364_Amiens.svg|364. Dreux d'Amiens<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Vignacourt and Aubigny<br>''drewe de amyas''</span><!-- Confounded (Gules three chevrons Vair) // Not in TCO -->
FW364_Amiens.svg|364. Dreux d'Amiens<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Vignacourt and Aubigny<br>''drewe de amyas''</span><!-- Confounded (Gules three chevrons Vair) // Not in TCO -->
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FW367_Louvain.svg|367. Arnoul de Louvain<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Breda<br>''edmunde son ffrere''</span>
FW367_Louvain.svg|367. Arnoul de Louvain<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Breda<br>''edmunde son ffrere''</span>
FW368_Wesemael.svg|368. Franco van Wesemael<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Oplinter<br>''franc de wizmale''</span><!-- Frank "Bastard of Wesemael" +1288, son of Arnoul II // Not in TCO -->
FW368_Wesemael.svg|368. Franco van Wesemael<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Oplinter<br>''franc de wizmale''</span><!-- Frank "Bastard of Wesemael" +1288, son of Arnoul II // Not in TCO -->
Diest.svg|369. Arnold VI van Diest<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Diest<br>Castellan of Anvers<br>''sir de dist''</span>
Wijnbergen_1234_Raso_van_Gaveren.svg|370. Raso VIII van Gaveren<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Gavre and Chièvres<br>''sr de gandre''</span>
FW371_Liedekerke.svg|371. Rasso X van Gaveren<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Liedekerke and Breda<br>''sr de lidekerce''</span><!-- Gavre-Liedekerke, miscoloured - Same indiv. as TCO222, son of Previous Rasse VIII and Sophie de Breda // Could also be his own son Rasse XII TCO227 with a change of tinctures -->
Wijnbergen_1232_Guy_de_Dampierre.svg|372. Guy de Dampierre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Flanders<br></span>
FW373_Dampierre.svg|373. Robert III de Flandre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''robert de betune''</span><!-- Son of Previous, Count in 1305 -->
FW374.svg|374. Unidentified<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''sir de folior''</span><!-- No idea - Couldnt match that legend with any local families using variants of those arms (Elst, Nouvion, Van der Hole, etc) // Fontaines has been suggested but I'm not convinced as it would be copied closer from TCO (in design & position in the roll) // If this is an insert not from TCO and/or Dering (unlike most items here) then a direct relation to any of the immediately surrounding entries is a better path to follow imo -->
FW375_Beveren.svg|375. Diederik X van Beveren<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Castellan of Dixmude<br>''sr de benre''</span>
Dering_311_Willem_van_Rode.svg|376. Jan van Rode<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Rode, Ingelmuster and Melle<br>''de rode''</span>
Dering_307_Leo_van_der_Aa.svg|377. Leo van der Aa<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Aa and Grimbergen<br>''misir de a''</span>
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