Château de Ravel: Difference between revisions

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In the castle of Ravel, located in Auvergne, exists an aula decorated with a long fresco featuring the arms of various princes and local nobles.
Pierre Flotte (d.1302), councillor of Philippe IV le Bel, received the castle as a gift from the king in 1294.
The dating of these frescs are still in debate. It is most probable that Pierre Flote ordered them around 1300-1301, but his death on 11/07/1302 was premature to see them finished. The shield of Louis de France, as king of Navarre, seems a good candidate to date them after his mother's death in 1305. But his seal before that date already shows the mi-parti France-Navarra. A better candidate seems Othon comte de Bourgogne who is also present. He died 1303. This allows us to date the realization of those wall paintings between 1300 and 1303.

Southern Wall
1. Philippe IV le Bel
King of France
2. Edward I Plantagenêt
King of England
3. Louis le Hutin
Future king of France and Navarre
4. Charles de France
Count of Valois
5. Louis de France
Count of Evreux
6. Unreadable
Pictures show a hint of a quarterly shield with a lion top left
Possibly Alphonse de la Cerda?
7. Robert de Bourbon
Count of Clermont-en-Bauvaisis
Lord of Bourbon
8. Robert Dauphin
Dauphin d'Auvergne
Count of Clermont-Auvergne
9. Robert de Bourgogne
Duke of Burgundy
10. Robert d'Auvergne
Count of Auvergne and Boulogne
11. Jean de Bretagne
Duke of Brittany
12. Jean de Forez
Count of Forez
13. Jean de Dreux
Count of Dreux
Chambrier of France
14. Guy de Châtillon
Count of Saint Pol
Grand Bouteiller of France
15. Jean de Sancerre
Brother of the Count of Sancerre
16. Uncertain
Probably the Bishop of Clermont
17. Otton de Bourgogne
Count of Burgundy
18. Hugues de Châtillon
Count of Blois

Western Wall
Destroyed
Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.
Destroyed
Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.
19. Guillaume Flote
Lord of Ravel
20. Isabeau de Bourgogne
Sister of Duke Robert of Burgundy
21. Bertrand de Rochefort d'Aurouze
Lord of Rochefort d'Aurouze
Destroyed
Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.
Destroyed
Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.
Destroyed
Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.
22. Hugues de Châtelperron
Lord of Châtelperron
23. Robert de Châtillon
Lord of Châtillon-en Bazois

Northern Wall
24. Lionnet d'Azenière
Lord of Azenières
25. Assalit de Tourzel
Lord of Tourzel
26. Hugues Damas de Cousans
Lord of Couzan
27. Armand Guillaume de Polignac
Viscount of Polignac
28. Pierre de Montaigut
Lord of Montaigut-le-Blanc
29. Osasica Flote de La Roche
Hidden or destroyed
The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.
Hidden or destroyed
The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.
Hidden or destroyed
The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.
Hidden or destroyed
The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.
30. Unknown
Possibly a cadet branche of La Roche-Aymon
31. Artaud de Claveson
Lord of Claveyson
32. Geoffroy de Clermont
Lord of Clermont-en-Viennois
33. Gilles Aycelin de Montaigut
Lord of Montaigut-sur-Billom
34. Jean de Grez
Viscount of Corbeil
Marshal of France

Eastern Wall
35. Geoffroy de Joinville
Lord of Vaucouleurs
36. Etienne de Mont Saint-Jean
Lord of Mont Saint-Jean
37. Enguerrand de Marigny
Lord of Marigny, Ecouis and Mainneville
Grand Chamberlain and Chancellor
of France
38. Pierre de Chambly
Lord of Chambly, Presles and Montreuil
Chamberlain of the King
39. Guillaume d'Apchon
Lord of Apchon
40. Destroyed
Possibly Foulques du Merle
Marshal of France
41. Miles de Noyers
Lord of Noyers
Marshal and Grand Bouteiller of France
42. Hugues de Bouville
Lord of Bouville, Farcheville and Milly
Chamberlain of France
43. Giraud de Roussillon
Lord of Anjou and Maymont
44. Itier de Bréon
Lord of Merdogne
45. Renaud de Bourgogne
Count of Montbéliard
46. Jean de Dampierre
Lord of Dampierre and Saint-Dizier
47. Bernard de la Tour
Lord of la Tour
48. Gaucher de Châtillon
Lord of Châtillon and Crécy
Count of Porcien
Constable of France
49. Béraud de Mercoeur
Lord of Mercoeur

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 In the castle of Ravel, located in Auvergne, exists an aula decorated with a long fresco featuring the arms of various princes and local nobles.<br>
 Pierre Flotte (d.1302), councillor of Philippe IV le Bel, received the castle as a gift from the king in 1294.<br>
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 Capet_Navarre.svg|3. Louis le Hutin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Future king of France and Navarre</span>
 Valois.svg|4. Charles de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Valois</span>
-D'Evreux.svg|5. Louis de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Evreux</span>
+RAV05 Evreux.svg|5. Louis de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Evreux</span>
 Ravel-6.svg|6. Unreadable<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Pictures show a hint of a quarterly shield with a lion top left<br>Possibly Alphonse de la Cerda?</span>
 Capet_Bourbon.svg|7. Robert de Bourbon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Clermont-en-Bauvaisis<br>Lord of Bourbon</span>
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 Ravel 14 Chatillon Saint-Pol.svg|14. Guy de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Saint Pol<br>Grand Bouteiller of France</span>
 Ravel 15 Jean-Sancerre.svg|15. Jean de Sancerre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Brother of the Count of Sancerre</span>
-Ravel 16 Clermont.svg|16. Uncertain<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Either the Count-Bishop of Châlons or the Bishop of Clermont</span>
+Ravel 16 Clermont.svg|16. Uncertain<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Probably the Bishop of Clermont</span>
 Ivrea.svg|17. Otton de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Burgundy</span>
 Ravel 18 Chatillon Blois.svg|18. Hugues de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Blois</span>
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 <gallery caption="Western Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
-Ravel 19 Flotte.svg|19. Guillaume Flotte<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ravel</span>
+Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
+Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
+Ravel 19 Flotte.svg|19. Guillaume Flote<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ravel</span>
 Ravel 20 Isabeau de Bourgogne.svg|20. Isabeau de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Sister of Duke Robert of Burgundy</span>
-Ravel 21 Rochefort.svg|21. Bertrand de Rochefort d'Aurouze<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
+Ravel 21 Rochefort.svg|21. Bertrand de Rochefort d'Aurouze<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Rochefort d'Aurouze</span>
-Ravel 22 Chatelperron.svg|22. Hugues de Châtelperron<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtelperron</span>
+Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
-Ravel 23 Chatillon-en-Bazois.svg|23. Robert de Châtillon-en Bazois<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
+Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
+Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
+Ravel 22 Chatelperron 2.svg|22. Hugues de Châtelperron<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtelperron</span>
+Ravel 23 Chatillon-en-Bazois.svg|23. Robert de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtillon-en Bazois</span>
 </gallery>
 <gallery caption="Northern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
-Ravel 24 Azenieres.svg|24. Assalit d'Azenières<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
+Ravel 24 Azenieres.svg|24. Lionnet d'Azenière<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Azenières</span>
-Ravel 25 Montaigu.svg|25. Guérin de Montaigu<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Montaigut</span>
+Ravel 25 Montaigu.svg|25. Assalit de Tourzel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Tourzel</span>
 Damas.svg|26. Hugues Damas de Cousans<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Couzan</span>
 Polignac.svg|27. Armand Guillaume de Polignac<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Viscount of Polignac</span>
-Ravel 28.svg|28. Humbert Guy de Chabannes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chabannes</span>
+Ravel 28 Montaigut.svg|28. Pierre de Montaigut<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Montaigut-le-Blanc</span>
-Ravel 29 La Roche.svg|29. Arnaud Flote de La Roche<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
+Ravel 29 La Roche.svg|29. Osasica Flote de La Roche<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
-Ravel 30.svg|30. Unknown<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Possibly a cadet branche of La Roche-Aymon</span>
+Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
+Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
+Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
+Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
+Ravel 30 LaRoche.svg|30. Unknown<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Possibly a cadet branche of La Roche-Aymon</span>
 Ravel 31 Clerieu.svg|31. Artaud de Claveson<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Claveyson</span>
 Clermont-Tonnerre.svg|32. Geoffroy de Clermont<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Clermont-en-Viennois</span>
-Ravel 33 Aycelin.svg|33. Gilles Aycelin de Montaigut<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
+Ravel 33 Aycelin.svg|33. Gilles Aycelin de Montaigut<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Montaigut-sur-Billom</span>
 Corbeil.svg|34. Jean de Grez<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Viscount of Corbeil<br>Marshal of France</span>
 </gallery>
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 Chambly.svg|38. Pierre de Chambly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chambly, Presles and Montreuil<br>Chamberlain of the King</span>
 Apchon.svg|39. Guillaume d'Apchon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Apchon</span>
-Blank.svg|40. Unreadable<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
+Blank.svg|40. Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Possibly Foulques du Merle<br>Marshal of France</span>
 Noyers.svg|41. Miles de Noyers<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Noyers<br>Marshal and Grand Bouteiller of France</span>
 Bouville.svg|42. Hugues de Bouville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bouville, Farcheville and Milly<br>Chamberlain of France</span>
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 Tour.svg|47. Bernard de la Tour<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of la Tour</span>
 Ravel 48 Chatillon-Porcien.svg|48. Gaucher de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtillon and Crécy<br>Count of Porcien<br>Constable of France</span>
-Mercœur.svg|49. Béraud de Mercoeur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mercoeur<br>Constable of Champagne</span>
+Mercœur.svg|49. Béraud de Mercoeur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mercoeur</span>
 </gallery>