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Work in Progress. Paintings realized between 1305 and 1314 in the castle of Ravel, Auvergne.
 
In the castle of Ravel, located in Auvergne, exists an aula decorated with a long fresco featuring the arms of various princes and local nobles.<br>
Pierre Flotte (d.1302), councillor of Philippe IV le Bel, received the castle as a gift from the king in 1294.<br>
The dating of these frescs are still in debate. It is most probable that Pierre Flote ordered them around 1300-1301, but his death on 11/07/1302 was premature to see them finished.
The shield of Louis de France, as king of Navarre, seems a good candidate to date them after his mother's death in 1305. But his seal before that date already shows the mi-parti France-Navarra. A better candidate seems Othon comte de Bourgogne who is also present. He died 1303. This allows us to date the realization of those wall paintings between 1300 and 1303.<br>


<gallery caption="Southern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
<gallery caption="Southern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
Capet_Ancient.svg|1. Philippe IV de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">King of France</span>
Capet_Ancient.svg|1. Philippe IV le Bel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">King of France</span>
England_Segar.svg|2. Edward II Plantagenêt<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">King of England</span>
England_Segar.svg|2. Edward I Plantagenêt<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">King of England</span>
Capet_Navarre.svg|3. Louis X de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">King of Navarre<br>Count of Champagne</span>
Capet_Navarre.svg|3. Louis le Hutin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Future king of France and Navarre</span>
Valois.svg|4. Charles de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Valois</span>
Valois.svg|4. Charles de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Valois</span>
Ravel 5 Evreux.svg|5. Louis de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Evreux</span>
RAV05 Evreux.svg|5. Louis de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Evreux</span>
Blank.svg|6. (Anjou)<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Unreadable</span>
Ravel-6.svg|6. Unreadable<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Pictures show a hint of a quarterly shield with a lion top left<br>Possibly Alphonse de la Cerda?</span>
Capet_Bourbon.svg|7. Robert de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Clermont<br>Lord of Bourbon</span>
Capet_Bourbon.svg|7. Robert de Bourbon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Clermont-en-Bauvaisis<br>Lord of Bourbon</span>
Dauphin_Auvergne.svg|8. Robert III Dauphin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Dauphin d'Auvergne<br>Count of Clermont-Auvergne</span>
Dauphin_Auvergne_Gelre.svg|8. Robert Dauphin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Dauphin d'Auvergne<br>Count of Clermont-Auvergne</span>
Burgundy.svg|9. Hugues V de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Duke of Burgundy</span>
Burgundy.svg|9. Robert de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Duke of Burgundy</span>
Ravel 10 Auvergne.svg|10. Robert VI d'Auvergne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Auvergne and Boulogne</span>
Ravel 10 Auvergne.svg|10. Robert d'Auvergne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Auvergne and Boulogne</span>
Pierre_I_de_Dreux.svg|11. Arthur II de Dreux<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Duke of Brittany</span>
Pierre_I_de_Dreux.svg|11. Jean de Bretagne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Duke of Brittany</span>
Forez.svg|12. Jean de Forez<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Forez</span>
Forez.svg|12. Jean de Forez<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Forez</span>
Dreux.svg|13. Jean II de Dreux<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Dreux<br>Chambrier de France</span>
Dreux.svg|13. Jean de Dreux<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Dreux<br>Chambrier of France</span>
Ravel 14 Chatillon Saint Pol.svg|14. Guy IV de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Saint Pol<br>Grand Bouteiller de France</span>
Ravel 14 Chatillon Saint-Pol.svg|14. Guy de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Saint Pol<br>Grand Bouteiller of France</span>
Champagne.svg|15. Louis X de France<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Champagne<br>King of Navarre</span>
Ravel 15 Jean-Sancerre.svg|15. Jean de Sancerre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Brother of the Count of Sancerre</span>
Ravel 16 Clermont.svg|16. Aubert Aycelin<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Bishop of Clermont</span>
Ravel 16 Clermont.svg|16. Uncertain<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Probably the Bishop of Clermont</span>
Comte Bourgogne Bergshammar.svg|17. Robert de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Burgundy</span>
Ivrea.svg|17. Otton de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Burgundy</span>
Bazoches.svg|18. Hugues de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Leuze and Condé</span>
Ravel 18 Chatillon Blois.svg|18. Hugues de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Blois</span>
</gallery>
</gallery>


<gallery caption="Western Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
<gallery caption="Western Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
Blank.svg|19.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
Blank.svg|20.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
Blank.svg|21.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 19 Flotte.svg|19. Guillaume Flote<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ravel</span>
Blank.svg|22.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 20 Isabeau de Bourgogne.svg|20. Isabeau de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Sister of Duke Robert of Burgundy</span>
Blank.svg|23.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 21 Rochefort.svg|21. Bertrand de Rochefort d'Aurouze<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Rochefort d'Aurouze</span>
Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
Blank.svg|Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Originally one shield was located here, destroyed by enlarging the window.</span>
Ravel 22 Chatelperron 2.svg|22. Hugues de Châtelperron<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtelperron</span>
Ravel 23 Chatillon-en-Bazois.svg|23. Robert de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtillon-en Bazois</span>
</gallery>
</gallery>


<gallery caption="Northern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
<gallery caption="Northern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
Blank.svg|24.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 24 Azenieres.svg|24. Lionnet d'Azenière<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Azenières</span>
Blank.svg|25.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 25 Montaigu.svg|25. Assalit de Tourzel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Tourzel</span>
Blank.svg|26.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Damas.svg|26. Hugues Damas de Cousans<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Couzan</span>
Blank.svg|27.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Polignac.svg|27. Armand Guillaume de Polignac<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Viscount of Polignac</span>
Blank.svg|28.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 28 Montaigut.svg|28. Pierre de Montaigut<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Montaigut-le-Blanc</span>
Blank.svg|29.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 29 La Roche.svg|29. Osasica Flote de La Roche<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;"></span>
Blank.svg|30.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
Blank.svg|31.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
Blank.svg|32.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
Blank.svg|33.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|Hidden or destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">The 15th century fireplace is built over this shield.</span>
Blank.svg|34.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 30 LaRoche.svg|30. Unknown<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Possibly a cadet branche of La Roche-Aymon</span>
Ravel 31 Clerieu.svg|31. Artaud de Claveson<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Claveyson</span>
Clermont-Tonnerre.svg|32. Geoffroy de Clermont<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Clermont-en-Viennois</span>
Ravel 33 Aycelin.svg|33. Gilles Aycelin de Montaigut<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Montaigut-sur-Billom</span>
Corbeil.svg|34. Jean de Grez<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Viscount of Corbeil<br>Marshal of France</span>
</gallery>
</gallery>




<gallery caption="Eastern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
<gallery caption="Eastern Wall" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
Blank.svg|35.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Wijnbergen 534 Geoffroy de Joinville.svg|35. Geoffroy de Joinville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Vaucouleurs</span>
Blank.svg|36.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 36 Charny.svg|36. Etienne de Mont Saint-Jean<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mont Saint-Jean</span>
Blank.svg|37.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Le Portier de Marigny.svg|37. Enguerrand de Marigny<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Marigny, Ecouis and Mainneville<br>Grand Chamberlain and Chancellor<br> of France</span>
Blank.svg|38.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Chambly.svg|38. Pierre de Chambly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chambly, Presles and Montreuil<br>Chamberlain of the King</span>
Blank.svg|39.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Apchon.svg|39. Guillaume d'Apchon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Apchon</span>
Blank.svg|40.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Blank.svg|40. Destroyed<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Possibly Foulques du Merle<br>Marshal of France</span>
Blank.svg|41.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Noyers.svg|41. Miles de Noyers<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Noyers<br>Marshal and Grand Bouteiller of France</span>
Blank.svg|42.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Bouville.svg|42. Hugues de Bouville<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bouville, Farcheville and Milly<br>Chamberlain of France</span>
Blank.svg|43.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Roussillon Annonay Embrun.svg|43. Giraud de Roussillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Anjou and Maymont</span>
Blank.svg|44.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
De_Breon.svg|44. Itier de Bréon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Merdogne</span>
Blank.svg|45.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ivrea Ancient.svg|45. Renaud de Bourgogne<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Montbéliard</span>
Blank.svg|46.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 46 Jean-Dampierre.svg|46. Jean de Dampierre<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of  Dampierre and Saint-Dizier</span>
Blank.svg|47.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Tour.svg|47. Bernard de la Tour<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of la Tour</span>
Blank.svg|48.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Ravel 48 Chatillon-Porcien.svg|48. Gaucher de Châtillon<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Châtillon and Crécy<br>Count of Porcien<br>Constable of France</span>
Blank.svg|49.<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">.</span>
Mercœur.svg|49. Béraud de Mercoeur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Mercoeur</span>
</gallery>
</gallery>

Latest revision as of 04:11, 27 May 2025

In the castle of Ravel, located in Auvergne, exists an aula decorated with a long fresco featuring the arms of various princes and local nobles.
Pierre Flotte (d.1302), councillor of Philippe IV le Bel, received the castle as a gift from the king in 1294.
The dating of these frescs are still in debate. It is most probable that Pierre Flote ordered them around 1300-1301, but his death on 11/07/1302 was premature to see them finished. The shield of Louis de France, as king of Navarre, seems a good candidate to date them after his mother's death in 1305. But his seal before that date already shows the mi-parti France-Navarra. A better candidate seems Othon comte de Bourgogne who is also present. He died 1303. This allows us to date the realization of those wall paintings between 1300 and 1303.