User talk:NSamson

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Suggestion. While the page Ducs non pairs is all nice and dandy it would also be nice if there would be a page or section about the duchies themselves...being lined up in concession from the earliest to youngest in creation, like they were on main page which you removed recently...but ofc expanded. It is nice to see when and what person got erected into duke however it is quite confusing and messy. Also I've been looking into Marquisats as well recently so it would perhaps be good to start working on that as well. We already have the first two Marquisats (probably more) which are Marquisat of Trans (Villenueve creation in 1505) and Fimarcon (Logmagne-Fimarcon creation in 1502). Finellach (talk) 20:57, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Show me the source for the tincures on this CoA. Where is the proof that the tinctures on the 1st quarter reversed? Finellach (talk) 11:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry but that is not the answer I am looking for. I am asking you for the specific source you base your claim that the tinctures reversed. Wikipedia or even HE are not valid sources...unless we don't have anything else. Here we have the arms from Order of the Holy Spirit in color. And WE KNOW that the only difference between pre-1645 and post-1645 arms was the addition of the escutcheon. No mention of tinctures change. So I am still waiting. This is not Heraldique Europeenne, this is WappenWiki. Finellach (talk) 11:41, 12 April 2016 (UTC) Edit: And btw don't get me wrong in any way...I am interested in facts. If we are going to have incorrect and fictional versions of the arms then we can as well give up...or just switch to regular Wikipedia. Finellach (talk) 11:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

You do understand I will keep reverting your crap until you provide the actual source? We have tinctures and illustration from a primary source and we know for a fact the only difference post-1645 is the addition of the escutcheon. Saying that is combining elements from different arms is pure demagogy. This is not a mirror site of HE. Finellach (talk) 12:03, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry but there is a difference between different elements and tinctures. We are here talking about the tinctures mate, not about the elements of the arms...they are not disputed. So your claim on "chimerical arms" have no merit. What you claim, without any source, is that the 1st quarter is red with golden cross, but have a primary source showing the colors were reversed. And we know for a fact, don't know how many times I need to repeat this, that the only difference post-1645 was the addition of the escutcheon of Order of Malta i.e. Hospitallers. Now, unless you can provide me with a valid source, which is not HE or Wikipedia, then what are we even talking about? Finellach (talk) 12:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)