House of Ailly: Difference between revisions

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d'Ailly, d'Alli, de Alliaco

Coat of Arms
House of Ailly
Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières
House of Ailly
Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye
Lords and Barons of Picquigny
Vidames of Amiens

Cadet Branches
House of Rumes
Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes
Adopted the name and arms from House of Rumes

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-D'Ailly Ancient.svg|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span>
+D'Ailly Ancient.svg|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span><!-- I trust you mean you will correct this entry then replace the one in the Wijnbergen to merge them ? In doubt : the tinctures in medieval armorials are always argent & azure : cf Wijnbergen, Le Breton, Cambrai, Bergshammar & Urfé and I dont think they were ever inverted later -->
-D'Ailly.svg|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye<br>Lords and Barons of Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens</span><!-- Robert IV d'Ailly had only a daughter Catherine who inherited Ailly, the line is then continued by Robert IV's younger brother Bauduin who inherits the lands from his mother, heiress of Picquigny -->
+D'Ailly.svg|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye<br>Lords and Barons of Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens</span><!-- Robert IV d'Ailly had only a daughter Catherine who inherited Ailly, the line is then continued by Robert IV's younger brother Bauduin who inherits the lands from his mother, heiress of Picquigny // It's debatable really. She still inherited all of her father's original possessions, and those ultimately went to her second husband, not her uncles who had started lines with different arms & possessions - Baudoin himself adopted the arms of Picquigny, before quartering them with Ailly and those quartered arms would fit much better as the "modern" arms (for the record I would still place his line as cadet branch as he never actually inherited from his older brother), and on the page of the "viscounty" (which it's not, as I'm sure you already noticed) // As for the arms with the whitebeam branches, they were adopted by the provençal house of Albert, not Ailly - I had long noticed those surprising arms to give them here and on the title pages but never got to editing them out - Not starting an edit back & forth ofc so I'll leave everything like this like you said, but it's a different family -->
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