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Compiegne 303 Jean de Villesavoye.svg|50. Jean II de Villesavoye<br>dit ''frère Jean''<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ville-Savoye and Droizy<br>''frere jehan de villesavoye''</span><!-- Cadets of Châtillon-Bazoches -->
Compiegne 303 Jean de Villesavoye.svg|50. Jean II de Villesavoye<br>dit ''frère Jean''<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ville-Savoye and Droizy<br>''frere jehan de villesavoye''</span><!-- Cadets of Châtillon-Bazoches -->
VER51 Grancey.svg|51. Eudes V de Grancey<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Grancey and Louvois<br>''eeudes de grancy''</span>
VER51 Grancey.svg|51. Eudes V de Grancey<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Grancey and Louvois<br>''eeudes de grancy''</span>
Wijnbergen 1108 Gaucher de Merry.svg|52. Gaucher de Merry<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Merry and Poiseux<br>''gaucher de meroy''</span>
Wijnbergen 1108 Gaucher de Merry.svg|52. Gaucher de Merry<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Merry and Poiseux<br>''gaucher de meroy''</span>
VER53 Etrechy.svg|53. Guy d'Etréchy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''guy destrecy''</span><!-- Probable (obscure) cadets of Merry and possibly one of the two unnamed items in WIN1109 & 1110 - Guillaume d'Etrechy used a similar design with pierced mullets & a bend on his seal 1314 -->
VER53 Etrechy.svg|53. Guy d'Etréchy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''guy destrecy''</span><!-- Probable (obscure) cadets of Merry and possibly one of the two unnamed items in WIN1109 & 1110 - Guillaume d'Etrechy used a similar design with pierced mullets & a bend on his seal 1314 -->
VER54 Riviere.svg|54. Josselin de la Rivière<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''josselin de la riviere''</span><!-- Family from Vimeu, later lords of Chépy and Villers-Campsart -->
VER54 Riviere.svg|54. Josselin de la Rivière<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''josselin de la riviere''</span><!-- Family from Vimeu, later lords of Chépy and Villers-Campsart -->
VER55 Chastel.svg|55. Jean de Chastel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chastel-Saint-Germain<br>''jehan de castellet''</span><!-- Different tinctures depending on version (Gules-Azure vs Gules-Or-Azure) -->
VER55 Chastel.svg|55. Jean de Chastel<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Chastel-Saint-Germain<br>''jehan de castellet''</span><!-- Different tinctures depending on version (Gules-Azure vs Gules-Or-Azure) -->
Wijnbergen 847 Guillaume d'Arzillieres.svg|56. Gautier III d'Arzillieres<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bussy and Arzillières<br>''gaucher d'argillieres''</span><!-- Interpreted as the same as WIN847 (crusily for croisettes) -->
Wijnbergen 847 Guillaume d'Arzillieres.svg|56. Gautier III d'Arzillieres<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Bussy and Arzillières<br>''gaucher d'argillieres''</span><!-- Interpreted as the same as WIN847 (crusily for croisettes) -->
VER57 Broyes-Commercy.svg|57. Jean de Commercy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Commercy<br>''jehan de commarchis''</span><!-- Son of Simon IV count of Saarbrücken +1308 while his father is still alive -->
VER57 Broyes-Commercy.svg|57. Jean de Commercy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Commercy<br>''jehan de commarchis''</span><!-- Son of Simon IV count of Saarbrücken +1308 while his father is still alive -->
VER58 Le Bacle.svg|58. Pierre le Bâcle<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Barbey<br>''le bacle de barbe''</span><!-- Pierre dit le Bâcle de Barbey - Le Bâcle/Meudon family. Meudon (& Villiers-le-Bâcle w/ label) = gironny vs Chatenay = lion (Barbey w/ label) Pierre mentioned 1302 is probably the son of Jean (WIN217) and grandson of Amaury de Meudon/de Chatenay (WIN28) -->
VER58 Le Bacle.svg|58. Pierre le Bâcle<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Barbey<br>''le bacle de barbe''</span><!-- Pierre dit le Bâcle de Barbey - Le Bâcle/Meudon family. Meudon (& Villiers-le-Bâcle w/ label) = gironny vs Chatenay = lion (Barbey w/ label) Pierre mentioned 1302 is probably the son of Jean (WIN217) and grandson of Amaury de Meudon/de Chatenay (WIN28) -->
VER58 Payen de Montmort.svg|58b. Payen de Montmort<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''payen de montmor''<br>Missing in other versions & possible later addition</span><!-- The entry is numbered like that by Boos who states that it's a later addition only appearing in this version. Very different from the seal of Jean 1318 (fretty) - Montmort in Champagne near Orbais, later held by Noyers and Hangest -->
VER58 Payen de Montmort.svg|58b. Payen de Montmort<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''payen de montmor''<br>Missing in other versions & possible later addition</span><!-- The entry is numbered like that by Boos who states that it's a later addition only appearing in this version. Very different from the seal of Jean 1318 (fretty) - Montmort in Champagne near Orbais, later held by Noyers and Hangest -->
VER59 Conflans.svg|59. Hugues IV de Conflans<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Conflans<br>''le sire de conflans''</span><!-- Missing the bend otherwise same as WIN828 -->
VER59 Conflans.svg|59. Hugues IV de Conflans<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Conflans<br>''le sire de conflans''</span><!-- Missing the bend otherwise same as WIN828 -->
VER60 Conflans Etoges.svg|60. Hugues III de Conflans<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Etoges<br>''hue des conflans''</span><!-- same as WIN829 -->
VER60 Conflans Etoges.svg|60. Hugues III de Conflans<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Etoges<br>''hue des conflans''</span><!-- same as WIN829 -->


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VER62 Guy du Val.svg|62. Unidentified<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''guy duval''</span>
VER62 Guy du Val.svg|62. Unidentified<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''guy duval''</span>
VER63 Jean de Villesavoye.svg|62. Jean I de Villesavoye<br>dit ''Coquillard''<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ville-Savoye and<br>Mont-Saint-Martin<br>''quoquillart de villesavoye''</span><!-- Father of n.50 (Jean II dit frère Jean) - Possibly their ancient arms or the design they used for Mont-St-Martin -->
 
VER63 Jean de Villesavoye.svg|63. Jean I de Villesavoye<br>dit ''Coquillard''<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ville-Savoye and<br>Mont-Saint-Martin<br>''quoquillart de villesavoye''</span><!-- Father of n.50 (Jean II dit frère Jean) - Possibly their ancient arms or the design they used for Mont-St-Martin -->
 
VER64 Louis de Fontaines.svg|64. Louis de Fontaines<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''loys de fontaines''</span>
 
VER65 Raoul de Fontaines.svg|65. Raoul de Fontaines<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''roul de fontaines''</span>
 
VER66 Jean d'Argiers.svg|66. Jean d'Argiers<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''jehan dargiel''</span><!-- Family from Rethelois. Later held Cumières near Verdun (seals in E. des Robert, Champagne) -->
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