House of Megas Komnenos: Difference between revisions

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Cadet branch of the House of Komnenos

Coat of Arms
House of Megas Komnenos
Emperors of Trebizond
House of Megas Komnenos
Emperors of Trebizond
Arms variant in Armorial du Héraut Vermandois c. 1290 and Armorial d'Urfé c. 1380
House of Megas Komnenos
Emperors of Trebizond
Arms variant in Armorial du Héraut Charolais c. 1425
House of Megas Komnenos
Emperors of Trebizond
Arms variant in Armorial Général Coislin-Séguier c. 1480

Cadet Branches
House of Stefanopoli-Komnenos
Louis XVI of France recognized claims to the descent from the Komnenos dynasty in 1782

Personal Arms
Manuel I Megas Komnenos
Emperor of Trebizond
1238-1263
Attributed arms in Gelre
Armorial
David Megas Komnenos
Emperor of Trebizond
1460-1461
Attributed arms in Grünenberg Wappenbuch

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 Megas Komnenos.svg|House of Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperors of Trebizond</span>
-Trebizond (1478).svg|House of Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperors of Trebizond<br>Arms variant in ''Hérault Vermandois''from 1460 and ''Heraldica Castellana'' from 1478</span>
+Trebizond (1478).svg|House of Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperors of Trebizond<br>Arms variant in ''Armorial du Héraut Vermandois'' c. 1290 and ''Armorial d'Urfé'' c. 1380</span><!-- Vermandois 874 (Vermandois is dated c. 1290-1294) and Urfé 2683 (Urfé is dated from started 1380 to completion around 1425 so it would depend on section for the date of the item). Riquer's Heraldica Castellana book probably based its reconstruction on the later or more probably another instance of that item from c. 1475 (Rineck/Savelli/Nancy armorial group) -->
+CHA501 Trebizond.svg|House of Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperors of Trebizond<br>Arms variant in ''Armorial du Héraut Charolais'' c. 1425</span><!-- Crosses Vert on the bezants are pretty big - There's a long list of variants of these arms. I can track most of them if you want - Not sure where to put them, none of these are peronal arms but variants of a generic attribution to the dynasty including the two already uploaded in Gelre 1485 & 1486 in personal arms below -->
+CSG64 Trebizond.svg|House of Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperors of Trebizond<br>Arms variant in ''Armorial Général Coislin-Séguier c. 1480</span><!-- Another one. Barruly of 8 (listed as identical to RYN/NAN/SAV but I couldn't check so those are possibly barry of 6 like in Gelre 1485) -->
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 <gallery caption="Personal Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
-Emp. de Trébizonde.svg|Manuel I Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperor of Trebizond<br>1238-1263<br>Attributed arms in ''Gelre<br>Armorial''</span>
+Emp. de Trébizonde.svg|Manuel I Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperor of Trebizond<br>1238-1263<br>Attributed arms in ''Gelre<br>Armorial''</span><!-- Not Manuel I but a generic attribution to the emperors of Trebizond (die keys van troppezunt) - Late 14th c. could be Alexios III or Manuel III but the armorial has different dates for its sections and some of it are attributions copied from other rolls (in turn re-copied into both BHM & ETO) -->
 David Komnenos.svg|David Megas Komnenos<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Emperor of Trebizond<br>1460-1461<br>Attributed arms in ''Grünenberg Wappenbuch''</span>
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