Armorial du Héraut Vermandois Allemagne: Difference between revisions

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Index
Brabant | Hesbaye | Allemagne

Sensuivent les armes des Alemans et Ruyers
32. Henri IV de Luxembourg
Count of Luxembourg and Limbourg
le sire de lucembourc
33. Walram von Jülich
Count of Jülich
le quens de julers
33b. Gottfried von Jülich
Son of Walram
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Legend & blazon confounded with previous entry
34. Gerhard V von Jülich
Brother of Walram
guerard de julers
35. Walram van Valkenburg
Lord of Valkenburg and Monschau
gallerant de fauquemont
36. Friedrich II von Schleiden
Lord of Schleiden
le chastellain de sellede
37. Gérard de Grandpré
Lord of Livry, Roussy and Houffalize
grard de lucembourg
38. Walram von Heinsberg
Lord of Blankenberghe
gallerans de hainseberge
39. Gottfried von Heinsberg
Lord of Heinsberg and Blankenheim
godeffroy de hainseberge
40. Soleuvre
vualiers de soleuure
41. Bernhard von Kinzweiler
Lord of Kinzweiler
bernard decansville
42. Gilles de Florange
Lord of Florange
gilles de florange
43. Dirk II van Brederode
Lord of Brederode
le sire de briedomodo
44. Jan van Renesse
Lord of Haemstede
jehan d'arenaisse
45. Eberhard von Katzenelnbogen
Count of Katzenelnbogen
le comte de chachenelefort
46. Swabia
le duc de souane
47. Jan van Cuijk
Lord of Cuijk
le sire de culres
48. Willem van Cuijk
Lord of Wortel and Hoogstraten
guille' de cuijk
49. Unidentified
le moyne descot

50. Jean de Villesavoye
Lord of Ville-Savoye and Droizy
frere jehan de villesavoye
50. Eudes V de Grancey
Lord of Grancey and Louvois
eeudes dde grancy
50. Gaucher de Merry
Lord of Merry and Poiseux
gaucher de meroy
50. Guy d'Etréchy
guy destrecy

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-<gallery caption="Sensuivent les armes des Alemans et Ruyers" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;"><!-- Read Hesbaignons here, not Bohemia -->
+<gallery caption="Sensuivent les armes des Alemans et Ruyers" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;"><!-- Only item 32 to 48/9 really belong to this segment Allemands & Ruyers -->
 VER32 Luxembourg.svg|32. Henri IV de Luxembourg<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Luxembourg and Limbourg<br>''le sire de lucembourc''</span>
 Wijnbergen 752 Walram von Julich.svg|33. Walram von Jülich<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Count of Jülich<br>''le quens de julers''</span>
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 Wijnbergen 677 Jan van Kuyc.svg|47. Jan van Cuijk<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Cuijk<br>''le sire de culres''</span>
 VER48 Willem van Cuijk.svg|48. Willem van Cuijk<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Wortel and Hoogstraten<br>''guille' de cuijk''</span><!-- Canton of Gymnich (his wife Sophie van Gymnich, dame of Hoogstraten) - Once again the blazon is unclear (cross argent or gules ?) but probably rather close to WIN1203 with just a fleur de lis in heart (personal arms of his wife probably) -->
-Wijnbergen 642.svg|49. Unidentified<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''le moyne descot''</span><!-- Possibly the same item as WIN 642 - There may be a connexion with Dours from the next item (Villesavoye) -->
+Wijnbergen 642.svg|49. Unidentified<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''le moyne descot''</span><!-- Possibly the same item as WIN 642 - There may also be a connexion with Dours or Aulnay from the next item (Bazoches-Villesavoye) -->
+</gallery>
+<!-- This is obviously the start of another segment (50-97) with individual from eastern & northern France (Burgundy & Champagne mostly) - The header legend may have been skipped at copy (item 49 being unidentified may belong to either) --><br>
+<gallery caption="" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
 Compiegne 303 Jean de Villesavoye.svg|50. Jean de Villesavoye<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Ville-Savoye and Droizy<br>''frere jehan de villesavoye''</span><!-- Cadets of Châtillon-Bazoches -->
+VER51 Grancey.svg|50. Eudes V de Grancey<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Grancey and Louvois<br>''eeudes dde grancy''</span>
+Wijnbergen 1108 Gaucher de Merry.svg|50. Gaucher de Merry<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Merry and Poiseux<br>''gaucher de meroy''</span>
+VER53 Etrechy.svg|50. Guy d'Etréchy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">''guy destrecy''</span><!-- Probable (obscure) cadets of Merry and possibly one of the two unnamed items in WIN1109 & 1110 - Guillaume d'Etrechy used a similar design with pierced mullets & a bend on his seal 1314 -->
 </gallery>