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==New Arms requests==
==New Arms requests==
'''Illeshazy''' or rather '''Illésházy''' - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II3.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/COA_Illeshazy_Miklos.jpg example 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II4.jpg example 3]., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Gaspar_Thurzo_Ilona.jpg example 4]. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: [https://static-cdn.arcanum.hu/nfo-resources/siebmacher_pic/siebmacher/b826-197-01.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Trencin_hradny_relief_z_roku_1609_Illeshazy.jpg example 2], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/a/a8/Ill%C3%A9sh%C3%A1zy_Istv%C3%A1n_n%C3%A1dor_pecs%C3%A9tje.jpg example 3], [https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/kozterkep/photos/u3952-a39801-5df54032d2c0c-b4d9c14bbe8592360e90aff9_1.jpg example 4], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II2.jpg example 5], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Keresztelo_Janos_Batthyany_Szidonia.jpg example 6], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy1.jpg example 7], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy2.jpg example 8], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_I1.jpg example 9],  etc, etc.<br>
'''Illeshazy''' or rather '''Illésházy''' - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II3.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/COA_Illeshazy_Miklos.jpg example 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II4.jpg example 3]., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Gaspar_Thurzo_Ilona.jpg example 4]. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: [https://static-cdn.arcanum.hu/nfo-resources/siebmacher_pic/siebmacher/b826-197-01.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Trencin_hradny_relief_z_roku_1609_Illeshazy.jpg example 2], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/a/a8/Ill%C3%A9sh%C3%A1zy_Istv%C3%A1n_n%C3%A1dor_pecs%C3%A9tje.jpg example 3], [https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/kozterkep/photos/u3952-a39801-5df54032d2c0c-b4d9c14bbe8592360e90aff9_1.jpg example 4], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II2.jpg example 5], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Keresztelo_Janos_Batthyany_Szidonia.jpg example 6], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy1.jpg example 7], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy2.jpg example 8], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_I1.jpg example 9],  etc, etc.<br>
'''Mondragon''' - continuation from above...the arms of Mondragon family of later period (from Pons de Mondragon mentioned above) seems to be reduced to one dragon (with human face) only. This arms is recorded by the Armorial d'Hozier in 1696 and is also used (quartered) by Mistral family as their successors. [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111476m/f835.image Source in Hozier's armorial]. More on Mondragon family: [https://paratge.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/le-sceau-de-raimond-de-montdragon-une-scene-dhommage-vers-1200/ Seal of Raimond II and Dragonet III], [http://jean.gallian.free.fr/comm2/m/montdrag.html Mondragon family by Jean Gallian] <br>





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New Arms requests

Illeshazy or rather Illésházy - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: example 1, example 2, example 3., example 4. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4, example 5, example 6, example 7, example 8, example 9, etc, etc.


Schönborn-Buchheim - Austrian branch of the family, arms exmple here

Schönborn-Wiesentheid - Bavarian branch of the family, arms example here

Pope Pius VI - example of arms

Pope Gregory XVI - example of arms

Pope Pius X - example of arms

Pope Pius XII - example of arms

Pope John XXIII - example of arms

Pope John Paul I - example of arms

Pope Benedict XVI - example of arms

Pope Francis - example of arms

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