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==Information regarding uploads==
By June 29th, 2025 uploads have been halted again due to uploads of too many incorrect files.
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Pero Rodrigues.svg|Update to the eagle in chief, eagle is double-headed as similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Trieste.svg Trieste arms] but on chief like [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Pallavicini_.svg this].
Figueira de Chaves.svg|Bordure update, also the leaves in the upper row should be spread a bit apart for aestethic appareance...something which I was updating recently...about 20 px points would suffice.
Ortiz Livro.svg|Bordure and Sun element update, also the bordure is wrong, the [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Ortiz_zpsnxzzclzo.png source image] shows how the outer bordure layout is
Jacome.svg|Castle and eagle update, the castle is similar like on [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:HRE_Leopold_I.svg Habsburg-Castile escutcheon] only inverted. Eagle should be like on [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Julius_Caesar_Livro.svg on this arms]. [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Jacome_zpsskk8r4qs.png Source image]
Lobatos.svg|bordure and castles update. [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Lobatos_zps4nd3exca.png Source image]
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==New Arms requests==
'''Alexander the Great''' - Starting with Livro requests...this one is for Alexander the Great as one of the ''Nine Worthies'', himself being one of the three pagan worthies. Arms is same as Norway but the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LDAM_(f._002v)_Rei_Alexandre.jpg lion is sitting in a chair] (throne?)<br>
'''Manuel I''' - [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LDAM_(f._42v)_D._Manuel_e_da_Rainha.jpg Joint arms of Manuel I of Portugal and his queen-consort Maria of Aragon]. I have already made [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:John_II_Livro.svg a similar arms] which has less castles than the source image so whichever you choose, 8 is more than enough since I believe the castle is just an artistic expression by the author. The arms in question is a cross between [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Portugal_Livro.svg Portugal] and arms of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Rainha_Maria.svg Maria of Aragon]. The half shield of Portugal is from [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Ferdinand_II._von_Portugal.svg Saxe-Coburg-Gotha] arms.<br>
'''Pedrosa''' - The arms is [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/pedrosa_zpsbb2kq4ja.png 5 stones in saltire], on the middle stone an eagle displayed sable. Arms is similar to the one with other circular shapes such as [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Atorella.svg Atorella] only difference is these are not exactly "circular" as we are talking about stones/rocks.<br>
'''Valente Livro''' - There already is an arms for [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Valente.svg Valente on the site] but it is wrong at least for Livro. The Livro shows [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Valente_zps6mijv6as.png the lion with only two lines across] and furthermore the lines are in fact filled with bezants. To show you what I mean by that: [http://mrandrevalente.com.br/gallery_gen/b4bd46153e5043a8671ad1c981660b94_480x630.jpg variant 1][http://jf-povoaforte.pt/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/brasao.jpg variant 2]. These two examples show the arms of Valente ancient arms, the bezants were later removed and that is the arms variant we have currently. As said and as you can see from Livro source, the variant in Livro has only two lines instead of proper three.<br>
'''Lago''' - Arms of [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Lago_zpsx7tfsouc.png Lago] - no need for elaboration, the image pretty much speaks for itself<br>
'''Ornelas''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Ornelas_zpsc3c3hybo.png Arms of Ornelas] shows shield azure, bend gules with three gold lillies, on each side a siren holding a comb and a mirror<br>
'''Gil Vantvisyet''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Gil%20Vantvisyet_zpsrv9x56c3.png Livro image], quartered Or and Azure, not sure what those things are in 1st and 4th quarter but it sure looks like some kind of shoes. 2nd and 3rd quarter a moor's head, over all a cross gules hollow argent<br>
'''Pachecho Livro''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Pachecho%20Livro_zpsq0um2unb.png source image]. The arms of Pachecho in Livro seems like a hybrid of several cauldron variants we have: [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Pacheco.svg Pachecho], [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Manrique_de_Lara.svg Manrique de Lara], [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Lara.svg Lara Ancient]. The elements on the cauldron seem to be vaire nebuly similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Vasconcelos_Livro.svg Vasconcelos] f.e.<br>
'''Afonso Garces''' - Again the [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Afonso%20Garcecircs_zpsjlqzsxwm.png source image] is pretty straightforward, complicated but clear.<br>
'''Gabriel Goncalves''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Gabriel%20Gonccedilalves_zpsitndrsm4.png source image]. Arms is double-headed eagle holding a moor's head, all withing a "rope bordure" similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Eca_Livro.svg Eca] i.e. [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Eça.svg Eça arms].<br>
'''Bairros Livro''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Bairros%20Livro_zpsjfux1sej.png source image]. The Livro image shows three branches throughout the arms as opposed to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Bairros.svg Bairros proper] which shows just three plain branches. In Livro branches are literally like [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Kosaca.svg three bends]<br>
'''Abul''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Abul_zps3w5termn.png source image] - shield split in two. First half shows an imperial eagle like in the arms of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Charlemagne_Livro.svg Charlemagne], the other half is azure with a fess gules, fess gules charged with crescent argent, below fess two crescents gules.<br>
'''Duarte Brandao''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Duarte%20Brandao_zpsdj6rxxot.png source image], shows two dragons Or, intertwined. The dragons/serpents are the same as in [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Serpa.svg Serpa arms] for example<br>
'''Coelho Livro''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Coelho_zpsp6ac7alk.png source image]. This arms is a similar case like with Valente. We already have a [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Coelho_Livro.svg Coelho variant] but it is wrong. The lion doesn't have bend but they are in fact proper lines (fess) and there is three of them. The lines are also vaire nebuly (azure and Or) like on Vasconcelos f.e. The [https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/386394843007264625/ non-Livro variants] usually showed the lion with three lines chequy (azure and Or). The color of the lion is purpure btw but the color went darker as with most images in Livro, as you can see from the source image as well where the lines with nebuly azure are much lighter and proper blue color.<br>
'''Botos''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Botos_zpsjoesak7u.png source image] shows a [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Ivar_Nilsson.svg shield divided per saltire] Or and gules, Or quarters charged with a Moor's head, gules quarters charged with argent towers<br>
'''Viveiro''' - [http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b445/krunoslav_rakititic1/Viveiro_zpsluq6qpcm.png source image] shows a shield quartered. 1st and 4th quarter are similar to Guzman or [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Manrique_de_Lara_Najera.svg Manrique de Lara cauldorns] (not so many serpent heads), cauldrons are completely chequy argent and gules on a azure field, bordure ermine. 1st and 3rd quarter are a variant of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Pedro_Fajardo_y_Chacón.svg Fajardo quarters], water part seems smaller on this variant than on the example linked, while the branches are intertwined in a saltire.<br>
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'''Duchy of Zara''' - [http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Duchy_of_Zara Duchy of Zara] located at city of Zara or Zadar. The only coat of arms missing to complete the [[Austrian Empire]] page. The arms show Saint Chrysogonus on a horse, dressed as a Roman soldier.<br>
Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4
'''Canton of Glarus''' - Glarus is ususally depicted as a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ingeram_Codex_082.jpg monk], although the exact compositions vary. Similar to the monks in [[Zurich Roll 4]]. Sources and examples of Glaurus arms: [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahne_und_Wappen_des_Kantons_Glarus wikipedia page about the arms], [http://www.zeno.org/Meyers-1905/I/070883a example1], [http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Glarus_(canton) heraldry of the world page]<br>
 
'''Iturbide''' - [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Casa_Imperial_de_Iturbide.svg source example] Arms as Princes of Iturbide, prior to that with no escutcheon, noble family from Navarre ennobled in 15th century by John II of Aragon, perpetual mayors/magistrates (Alcaide) of Batzan Valley, moved to "New Spain" (Mexico) in 17th century<br>
'''Augustin de Iturbide''' [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Escudo_de_Armas_de_S.M.I._Agustín.svg arms as Emperor of Mexico] 1822-1823<br>
'''Maximilian I of Mexico''' - [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Second_Mexican_Empire.svg Arms as Emperor]. Born as Ferdinand Maximilian Joseph von Habsburg, younger brother of Franz Joseph I of Austria.<br>
'''Free City of Augsburg''' - Arms of the city of Augsburg. One of the oldest free cities in Germany, had a well established burgher/patrician nobility similar to some of the Italian cities...such as powerful [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Welser.svg Welser family] and so on. Been forgetting about this one for a while now. The arms is literally the [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Augsburg.svg arms of the Prince-Bishops of Augsburg] with a green pine cone on top of a golden fountain-like structure. I was thinking about making it myself by combining the fountain from Muzaka arms and the pine cone from Donzy f.e. but I don't think that would be approved or lead to a desirable outcome. Some sources: [https://bit.ly/2JqeZyH Augsburg arms history], [http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Augsburg HotW page], [https://www.historisches-lexikon-bayerns.de/Lexikon/Datei:Augsburg_Wappen.jpg example 1], [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Wappen_der_Bibliothek_zu_Augsburg.jpg Example 2], [https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/augsburg/crop43129341/5464123387-cv3_4-w460/Copy-20of-20Wappenfenster-Augsburg.jpg Example 3], [https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/augsburg/crop43129341/5464123387-cv3_4-w460/Copy-20of-20Wappenfenster-Augsburg.jpg Example 4].<br>I'm fairly sure that structure's actually a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_(architecture) capital] (the top bit of a greco-roman column). [[User:Novov|Novov]] ([[User talk:Novov|talk]]) 04:36, 9 June 2018 (UTC)


==Comment==
I thought [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:De_Thou.svg these were bees] since they had the same model as other bees coa's. Sry. :p [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]])


No worries, I thought so to at first. Need to update those later on. :) <br>
Also, I forgot. Feel free to start working on Livro, I will help out in any way possible. [[User:JSpuller| JSpuller]] ([[User talk: JSpuller |talk]])


Will do...I'll start looking into it the next few days. BTW I wanted to ask you something for some time now...where did you find the info on this [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Neopatras.svg Neopatria arms]? I've been trying to look around and can't find anything...I always get pointed to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Neopatria.svg this coa] which was apparently used by monarchs of Aragon/Sicily. Is that the coa of the vicars i.e. governers of the duchy? Because the duchy literally had a nominal feual ruler which was the King of Aragon/Sicily and the vicars who were governing the duchy in their name. Also while I am on this...the Catalan Company used the arms of [[House of Barcelona]] on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gran-Companyia-Catalana-segell-1305.jpg their seals]. The front shows the figure of Saint George and the back shows the arms with four pallets. Also they used various flags, but mostly the flag of St. George so that can be used as well. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]])
== Aditional element request ==
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I found it in Vigilii Ruberi Wappenbuch, https://haab-digital.klassik-stiftung.de/viewer/image/1249054540/26/, most likely attributed. For the saltire arms, I haven't been able to find any source for that arms other than the svg files on Wikipedia.
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The arms of the Catalan Company was actually St George killing the dragon, not the four pallets.:
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"After april-May 1305, the Company used a banner and a seal displaying St George, patron of Catalonia".<br>
"Muntaner was also the keeper of the Company's seal representing St George, it's patron, used for the authentication of the documents it passed"


"https://books.google.hu/books?id=yIC1CwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA169&ots=mHmNGBhE5g&dq=mutaner%20was%20also%20the%20keeper&pg=PA169#v=onepage&q=mutaner%20was%20also%20the%20keeper&f=false"
Hey! I was wondering if there's a full scale version of an Alerion I could use for the Lower Alba/Nilfgaard coat of arms and the Alba Division banner. The one currently available in heraldic elements doesn't scale properly with regards to the stroke, so it would be great if there's a full scale version.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gran-Companyia-Catalana-segell-1305.jpg
Thanks, AncientConqueror


That is interesting. It seems me both these variants are attributed. I am pretty sure the saltire arms has a source as well but I'll need to ask around to confirm it. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]])
== upload request ==
<BR><BR>-asset for a naval crown, used in the coat of arms of the Earls of Northesk, the Knowles baronets of Lovell Hill and of British Hong Kong
<BR><BR>-''Landschap Drenthe'' https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_van_Drenthe_(heraldiek) which was part of the dutch republic
<BR><BR>-''Guerrieri Counts of Mirafiori and Fontanafredda'' https://books.google.it/books?id=jwIJAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=it&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=mirafiori&f=false the family descending from the marriage of Victor Emanuel II and Rosa Vercellana
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--[[User:Merula-Mostepic|Merula-Mostepic]] ([[User talk:Merula-Mostepic|talk]]) 12:18, 2 June 2026 (EDT)


== Upload errors ==


Hi, I noticed the heart in the file House of the King.svg is warped for some reason and I am unable to find the reason why. I am also wondering if you know why when uploading svg files they are saved as the wrong size even though they are saved as the correct 820x952 pixel size.


Thank you,
Eshogun671
<br>[[User: Eshogun671|Eshogun671]]


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Hello Eshogun,
Ok besides the requests I trust you saw some of the arms I made recently so while I believe they are good enough and in tune with your style I will still post them here so you can update or whatever.
First is the arms I made for [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Langres_Livro.svg Langres]...this is the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LDAM_(f._039v)_Arcebispo_de_Langre.jpg source image]. Elements are taken from [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:D%27Estrades.svg Estrades (lion)] and the stars are from one of the Douglas Toison variants but flipped by 90 degrees and aligned aligned by stars in Douglas Lochleven arms<br>
Second arms is I made for Orkney, I am not really sure of this one since it's a composite and mix of various ship-boat arms you made. The [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LDAM_(f._028)_Rei_de_Orguenie.jpg source image is this] while my attempt is [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Orkney_Livro.svg this]. I've combined elements from at least 3-4 different Orkney/Caithness ships-boat arms trying to (re)create the ship with the exact or similar sails as on the source image.
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Quick question. In preparation for the Dering roll, I've been filling my column for pre-existing items (trying to do this more carefully this time since I missed quite a few in the past) and noticed that I'd probably end up with all three styles of martlets (Paynel for ex has two different styles). This means I'll make specific versions where needed ofc but do you have a preference about those ?  I've only been using the Mello type until now so I'd probably go with that one, but I've been wondering about this for some time now. [[User:Solo|Solo]] ([[User talk:Solo|talk]]) 15:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


The martlet/merlette issue hasn't really fully been resolved yet . The bird, originally a small blackbird, then a generic small bird, then a bird without feet and even later without beak, the species of the bird interpreted variously depending on the country, http://www.heraldica.org/topics/martlet.htm <br> <br>
You are saving files "incorrectly", be sure that 'Responsive' is not checked when saving the .SVG file
<br>[[User:JSpuller| JSpuller]]([[User talk:JSpuller|talk]]) 19:37, 18 December 2025


I've divided the small bird into three types, to show it's "evolution" more or less; <br>
== Recent Uploads ==
1. Small blackbird (early variant, without feet, as in the Gelre Armorial, Bellenville, Bergshammar and others) <br>
Hi Spuller,
2. Marlet, swallow, English variant. <br>
I wanted to apologize for my recent upload of House Roote, that made the site crash, I'm pretty new working with Illustrator.
3. Merlette, canette/duckling, French variant  <br>


However the marlet in the Dering roll looks like canette/duckling, but with feet and beak, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/DeringRoll.jpg
Thanks, DerDennis16
[[User: JSuller |JSuller]] ([[User talk: JSuller |talk]]) 22:39, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:20, 2 June 2026

Information regarding uploads

By June 29th, 2025 uploads have been halted again due to uploads of too many incorrect files.



Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4



Aditional element request

Hey! I was wondering if there's a full scale version of an Alerion I could use for the Lower Alba/Nilfgaard coat of arms and the Alba Division banner. The one currently available in heraldic elements doesn't scale properly with regards to the stroke, so it would be great if there's a full scale version.

Thanks, AncientConqueror

upload request



-asset for a naval crown, used in the coat of arms of the Earls of Northesk, the Knowles baronets of Lovell Hill and of British Hong Kong

-Landschap Drenthe https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_van_Drenthe_(heraldiek) which was part of the dutch republic

-Guerrieri Counts of Mirafiori and Fontanafredda https://books.google.it/books?id=jwIJAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=it&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=mirafiori&f=false the family descending from the marriage of Victor Emanuel II and Rosa Vercellana
--Merula-Mostepic (talk) 12:18, 2 June 2026 (EDT)

Upload errors

Hi, I noticed the heart in the file House of the King.svg is warped for some reason and I am unable to find the reason why. I am also wondering if you know why when uploading svg files they are saved as the wrong size even though they are saved as the correct 820x952 pixel size.

Thank you, Eshogun671
Eshogun671

Hello Eshogun,

You are saving files "incorrectly", be sure that 'Responsive' is not checked when saving the .SVG file
JSpuller(talk) 19:37, 18 December 2025

Recent Uploads

Hi Spuller, I wanted to apologize for my recent upload of House Roote, that made the site crash, I'm pretty new working with Illustrator.

Thanks, DerDennis16