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Latest revision as of 11:04, 20 November 2025

Information regarding uploads[edit]

By June 29th, 2025 uploads have been halted again due to uploads of too many incorrect files.

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New Arms requests[edit]

Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4

Ormesby - arms of William de Ormesby. He defended Scone Palace against William Wallace during the First War of Scottish Independence. Wikipedia shows his coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Ormesby

Arms of William de Ormesby Gules, crusilly argent, a bend chequy or and azure.

Nicolas Béhuchet. Commanded the French fleet that burned Portsmouth in 1338 and the fleet that was defeated during the Battle of sluys of 1340.

His arms should be " d’argent à une branche de rosier de sinople, fleurie de trois pièces de gueules et cantonné de quatre étoiles d’or."

Uploading new files?[edit]

Hi there, would it be possible to make the arms in the A Song of Ice and Fire series more elaborate, when fitting to do so? One example is House Fowler of Skyreach, their current arms feels quite stagnant considering the culture reflective of the books. The existing information comes from semi-canon sources. REF: "semi-canon source"
Thank you, much appreciated.
File:Current House Fowler.pngFile:Suggested House Fowler.png

My aim for the site is to provide historical accurate coat of arms, both fiction and flags are not the focus of the WappenWiki, so unfortunately no.

Aditional element request[edit]

Hello! I was wondering if there's already an element for "a falcon's head couped," as I figured that would be necessary for the Atreides coat of arms according to the blazon from the 1984 Dune Encyclopedia: Sable a falcon's head couped gules encircled by laurel branches vert

Thanks,

AncientConqueror

upload request[edit]

-asset for a naval crown, used in the coat of arms of the Earls of Northesk, the Knowles baronets of Lovell Hill and of British Hong Kong -Landschap Drenthe https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_van_Drenthe_(heraldiek) which was part of the dutch republic

-free commune of volterra https://www.araldicacivica.it/comune/Volterra/ which depicts a gryphon on top of a basilisc

-the coat of arms of the Hamilton of Woodbrook is incorrect, the escutcheon should be a chief https://archive.org/details/heraldryofhamils00john/page/24/mode/2up?q=Woodbrook Thanks again for all the work
--Merula-Mostepic (talk) 05:43, 5 November 2025 (EST)

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+By June 29th, 2025 uploads have been halted again due to uploads of too many incorrect files.
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 ==New Arms requests==
-'''Rothschild''' - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great_coat_of_arms_of_Rothschild_family.svg example 1], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rotschilds_arms.jpg example 2], [https://localfoodandwine.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cherie-du-vin-rothschild-crest-1.jpg example 3], [https://media.gettyimages.com/id/629571475/photo/family-crest-of-the-rothschild-banking-family.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=i7lOj4MkOVqO_WHH-b0IFmlL4FJbyvMXymCOkBycD-I= example 4]
+Rothschild - arms of Barons Rothschild, the arms was awarded to them by Emperor Francis I along with the title of baron. The titles and arms were later recognized in UK along with a british title of baron as well. example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4
-'''Pope Leo XIV''' - Arms of the new Pope is official, found [https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-05/pope-leo-xiv-official-explanation-coat-arms.html here]. Strangely it uses two non-conventional tinctures. Upper half is described as "light blue" i.e. bleu celeste, while the lower part is referred to as "light" or "ivory". So judging by the official source I'd say the upper half is [https://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Tincture-Bisque.svg bleu celeste] and the lower half [https://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:Tincture-Bisque.svg Bisque] or as it's recently referred to as "Buff" and in this instance "ivory".
+Ormesby - arms of William de Ormesby. He defended Scone Palace against William Wallace during the First War of Scottish Independence.
+Wikipedia shows his coat of arms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Ormesby
+Arms of William de Ormesby
+Gules, crusilly argent, a bend chequy or and azure.
+Nicolas Béhuchet. Commanded the French fleet that burned Portsmouth in 1338 and the fleet that was defeated during the Battle of sluys of 1340.
+His arms should be " d’argent à une branche de rosier de sinople, fleurie de trois pièces de gueules et cantonné de quatre étoiles d’or."
 == Uploading new files? ==
-Heyo, how come you removed my edit on [[Kingdom of Sweden]]? Is it because the noble houses are only supposed to be the medieval "uradel"? If it was because the pixel size was wrong, I've corrected it to 820 x 952 now. Please let me know what went wrong so I know for the future. Cheers. --[[User:Mbacon246|Mbacon246]] ([[User talk:Mbacon246|talk]]) 18:39, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
-Hey, I missed to write why I edited the page. The arms is not really using elements from the page correctly. I'll see if I can find a good tree for the arms. Really nice work and additions to the page, it is most welcome. Regards, Joakim
-[[User:JSpuller|JSpuller]] ([[User talk:JSpuller|talk]]) 19:42, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
-Ah, I see! So one cannot add new elements, everything should come from [[Heraldic Elements]]? Some Swedish arms are tricky since they're so specific, if I understand the blazon of the one I uploaded the tree is supposed to be 'young and well-trimmed' ("ungt och vårdadt"). Thank you for the kind words, hope you find a suitable tree! Cheers, Mike --[[User:Mbacon246|Mbacon246]] ([[User talk:Mbacon246|talk]]) 18:54, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
-== Information on an arms and Lordship. ==
-Hello, I was curious as to how and where you got your information of the Lordship of Newsham and ancient arms of the House of Smithson under the Kingdom of England?? Many thanks in adnvance, Svenska.Mannen.
+Hi there, would it be possible to make the arms in the ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' series more elaborate, when fitting to do so? One example is House Fowler of Skyreach, their current arms feels quite stagnant considering the culture reflective of the books. The existing information comes from semi-canon sources. [https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/Heraldry/Houses/9/ REF: "semi-canon source"]<br>Thank you, much appreciated. <br>[[File:Current House Fowler.png|200px]][[File:Suggested House_Fowler.png|200px]]
-== Bandinelli  ==
+My aim for the site is to provide historical accurate coat of arms, both fiction and flags are not the focus of the WappenWiki, so unfortunately no.
-The coat of arms of the Bandinelli/Cerretani family, even if often descibed as having a normal diapering, is showed with a Fleur-de-lys shaped diapering in multiple sources, like in the ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Enciclopedia_storico_nobiliare_italiana/0AAJAQAAIAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paparoni&pg=PA496&printsec=frontcover| first]'' and ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Enciclopedia_storico_nobiliare_italiana/QFdmAAAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paparoni&pg=RA1-PA424&printsec=frontcover| second]'' volumes of the Enciclopedia storico-nobiliare italiana by Vittorio Spreti, and in the ''[https://archiviodistatofirenze.cultura.gov.it/ceramellipapiani/index.php?page=Ricerca&q=paparoni&opt=all| National Archives of Florence]''.
-That said there are also some depictions of the coat of arms with a standard (albeit somewhat floral) diapering like in the ''[https://ia800404.us.archive.org/21/items/learmedellefamig00gigl/learmedellefamig00gigl.pdf| Arme delle famiglie nobili di Siena]'' but i still find it reasonable to have it look like a Fleur-de-lys since so many sources portray it as such.
-Also the 17th century tomb pope of Alexander III uses a version of the coat of arms of the bandinelli without the castle [https://www.calcografica.it/stampe/inventario.php?id=S-CL2253_5656] [https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:San_giovanni_in_laterano,_interno,_navata_interna_dx,_sepolcro_di_alessandro_III_con_scultura_di_domenico_guidi,_1658-59.jpg], that said he probably didn't use either coat of arms during his life (since we aren't even sure he was a member of the bandinelli family) so i guess it doesn't matter too much.<br> Either way i still hope you can take some time to consider my requests
---[[User:Merula-Mostepic|Merula-Mostepic]] ([[User talk:Merula-Mostepic|talk]]) 10:17, 17 May 2025 (EDT)
+== Aditional element request ==
-'''Bandinelli'''<br>
+Hello! I was wondering if there's already an element for "a falcon's head couped," as I figured that would be necessary for the Atreides coat of arms according to the blazon from the 1984 Dune Encyclopedia: Sable a falcon's head couped gules encircled by laurel branches vert
-''d'oro diaprato''
-The blazon 'overrides' any images, as that is the major source for any coat of arms. If we were to use images as sources the artwork of WappenWiki would differ toO much.
+Thanks,
-Also, what you are using now is the 'Florentine lily' and the ''two'' sources is not depicting that, rather what you describe as floral diapering. I've seen a few with a fleur-de-lys, however those sources are newer than the ones below.
+AncientConqueror
+== upload request ==
-<gallery>
+<BR><BR>-asset for a naval crown, used in the coat of arms of the Earls of Northesk, the Knowles baronets of Lovell Hill and of British Hong Kong
-Bianchi-Bandinelli 1833.png
+-''Landschap Drenthe'' https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_van_Drenthe_(heraldiek) which was part of the dutch republic
--Araldica-Stemma-Famiglia-Cerretani-Bandinelli-Paparoni-Siena.png
+<BR><BR>-''free commune of volterra'' https://www.araldicacivica.it/comune/Volterra/ which depicts a gryphon on top of a basilisc
-Cerretani Bonelli Laura.jpg
+<BR><BR>-the coat of arms of the Hamilton of Woodbrook is incorrect, the escutcheon should be a chief https://archive.org/details/heraldryofhamils00john/page/24/mode/2up?q=Woodbrook
-Cerretani - BiblioToscana.jpeg
+Thanks again for all the work
-Arme di Siena.jpg
+<BR>--[[User:Merula-Mostepic|Merula-Mostepic]] ([[User talk:Merula-Mostepic|talk]]) 05:43, 5 November 2025 (EST)
-Bianchi-Bandinelli 1775.png
-</gallery>