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''''Italic text''''To sign your posts on talk pages, use four tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>) at the end of your message. -[[User:NSamson|NSamson]] ([[User talk:NSamson|talk]]) 02:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
To sign your posts on talk pages, use four tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>) at the end of your message. -[[User:NSamson|NSamson]] ([[User talk:NSamson|talk]]) 02:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


==Comments==
==Comments==
Will start looking into the Toison d'Or tomorrow, was busy these past two days by reviewing the site for some updates...there is no hurry. :) [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 13:31, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MP-Liber_Additamentorum-170a.jpg Folio 170a]. The man who made modern illustration has been confirmed as credible source on many occasions. He is behind the sites such as Aspilogia.com and so on. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 22:24, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


One question. Regarding [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/File:La_Tremoille_Noirmoutier.svg this CoA]...what exactly is wrong with it or rather what is wrong with the eagle? And if you don't mind what is the source for it? I've tried looking around to see how it should look to figure out what you are asking to be corrected but I just cannot find this variant. All I could find was [http://www.geneanet.org/gallery/?action=detail&rubrique=blasons&id=120688&desc=de_la_tremoille_noirmoutier_louis_ii_de_la_trem&individu_filter=tremoille this]. So what is going on? :S [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 17:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
BTW you are right, it is most likely that the arms with three lions is in fact FitzMatthew...I just noticed it appears in Historia Anglorum. Still the colors are reversed. Cheerio. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 23:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


Hmm thats interesting. The difference between these variants is quite big, don't know what to make of it. As for Cinque Ports, sadly no...there is a book called ''Roll of the Constables of Dover Castle and Lord Wardens of the Cinque Ports'' from 1627 by John Philipot but I couldn't find an online version of it. It lists about 75 arms of various Lord Wardens. Besdies few pages that are out there "for preview" I had no general insight in it so I had to manage by looking for alternative sources and so on. I've also found a few photos of the room where they had the arms of Lord Wardens so in a strange manner I was looking at those as well and trying to decipher which CoA belongs to which person. In general I've used several sources...mainly Burke's book on heraldry, some armorials, etc. So it's a mish-mash. Wish I could have a complete insight into John Philipot's book though. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 10:13, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
==Categorization==
With over 13000 files, I propose that we add categories for each file, so that arms containing the same charge may be grouped properly.


Interesting find....thx. I've been looking for a decent version online of Korenic-Neoric and couldn't find it. In Fojnica armorial Croatia is the variant after 1527...5x5 or 5x6 rather so since they came from the same source I figured they are probably the same. Also looking at these arms I can now confirm what I thought all along...the arms of "kingdoms" are named "lands". [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 15:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Also, this is the closest thing I could think of in order to find arms by blazon.
 
For example, the Capet arms is categorized as Fleur-de-lys.
 
Arms containing more than one charge would have several categories, until each and every charge contained in the arms had been identified.
 
If a charge cannot be identified, it should also be categorized as 'Unidentified Charge', even if the other charges could be identified. If another user could identify the charge, the 'Unidentified Charge' category for that specific arms should be deleted and replaced with the proper identification. -[[User:NSamson|NSamson]] ([[User talk:NSamson|talk]]) 02:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
This is a great idea, but personally I don't really think its feasible given the sparse amount of members this wiki has. [[User:Novov|Novov]] ([[User talk:Novov|talk]]) 08:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
==Method==
Export as Plain SVG.
Open - realign to center and middle

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To sign your posts on talk pages, use four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. -NSamson (talk) 02:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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Folio 170a. The man who made modern illustration has been confirmed as credible source on many occasions. He is behind the sites such as Aspilogia.com and so on. Finellach (talk) 22:24, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

BTW you are right, it is most likely that the arms with three lions is in fact FitzMatthew...I just noticed it appears in Historia Anglorum. Still the colors are reversed. Cheerio. Finellach (talk) 23:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Categorization[edit]

With over 13000 files, I propose that we add categories for each file, so that arms containing the same charge may be grouped properly.

Also, this is the closest thing I could think of in order to find arms by blazon.

For example, the Capet arms is categorized as Fleur-de-lys.

Arms containing more than one charge would have several categories, until each and every charge contained in the arms had been identified.

If a charge cannot be identified, it should also be categorized as 'Unidentified Charge', even if the other charges could be identified. If another user could identify the charge, the 'Unidentified Charge' category for that specific arms should be deleted and replaced with the proper identification. -NSamson (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

This is a great idea, but personally I don't really think its feasible given the sparse amount of members this wiki has. Novov (talk) 08:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Method[edit]

Export as Plain SVG. Open - realign to center and middle