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To sign your posts on talk pages, use four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. -NSamson (talk) 02:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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Folio 170a. The man who made modern illustration has been confirmed as credible source on many occasions. He is behind the sites such as Aspilogia.com and so on. Finellach (talk) 22:24, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

BTW you are right, it is most likely that the arms with three lions is in fact FitzMatthew...I just noticed it appears in Historia Anglorum. Still the colors are reversed. Cheerio. Finellach (talk) 23:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Categorization[edit]

With over 13000 files, I propose that we add categories for each file, so that arms containing the same charge may be grouped properly.

Also, this is the closest thing I could think of in order to find arms by blazon.

For example, the Capet arms is categorized as Fleur-de-lys.

Arms containing more than one charge would have several categories, until each and every charge contained in the arms had been identified.

If a charge cannot be identified, it should also be categorized as 'Unidentified Charge', even if the other charges could be identified. If another user could identify the charge, the 'Unidentified Charge' category for that specific arms should be deleted and replaced with the proper identification. -NSamson (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

This is a great idea, but personally I don't really think its feasible given the sparse amount of members this wiki has. Novov (talk) 08:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Method[edit]

Export as Plain SVG. Open - realign to center and middle

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-Would you explain to me the recent changes to Burgundy Montagu? What is the source for the coat of arms with plain white canton? I've never seen that variant, always with canton hermine. Also, lords of Sombernon were not a cadet branch but the same main branch which changed possession of Montagu with mentioned Sombernon. Couches also used a specific arms with bordure engrailed until they've become main line after the dukes died out in male line and adopted undifferenced arms.
+To sign your posts on talk pages, use four tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>) at the end of your message. -[[User:NSamson|NSamson]] ([[User talk:NSamson|talk]]) 02:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
-You can see a simple geneology even on Wikipedia where it is clear that there was no Sombernon cadet branch, they were the main branch. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Burgundy]
+==Comments==
-Also the source for early Couches arms is this page [http://www.europeanheraldry.org/france/royal/burgundy/] which I've consulted before in minor issues and seems pretty reliable and well researched.
+[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MP-Liber_Additamentorum-170a.jpg Folio 170a]. The man who made modern illustration has been confirmed as credible source on many occasions. He is behind the sites such as Aspilogia.com and so on. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 22:24, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
-Edit: Also the Eudues, Count of Nevers arms was also the arms of his daughters who was suo jure Countess' and thus of that very short lived "branch". The youngest daughter, Countess of Auxerre even trasmitted that arms to her [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php/House_of_Chalon Chalon family].
-Actually I see that the Wikipedia page is direct transliteration of that same source. So unless Anselme himself omitted it, than whoever transliterated it omitted it as well. There is no need to upload anything. We don't need a dozen of same arms, same arms can be used there for several things. I'll edit the page and you can review. Edit: the fact that Anselme was and still is well respected doesn't mean we should take his every word for granted. He wasn't there to see what arms they used since he lived two centuries after the entire Burgundy line died out.
+BTW you are right, it is most likely that the arms with three lions is in fact FitzMatthew...I just noticed it appears in Historia Anglorum. Still the colors are reversed. Cheerio. [[User:Finellach|Finellach]] ([[User talk:Finellach|talk]]) 23:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
+==Categorization==
+With over 13000 files, I propose that we add categories for each file, so that arms containing the same charge may be grouped properly.
+Also, this is the closest thing I could think of in order to find arms by blazon.
+For example, the Capet arms is categorized as Fleur-de-lys.
+Arms containing more than one charge would have several categories, until each and every charge contained in the arms had been identified.
+If a charge cannot be identified, it should also be categorized as 'Unidentified Charge', even if the other charges could be identified. If another user could identify the charge, the 'Unidentified Charge' category for that specific arms should be deleted and replaced with the proper identification. -[[User:NSamson|NSamson]] ([[User talk:NSamson|talk]]) 02:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
+This is a great idea, but personally I don't really think its feasible given the sparse amount of members this wiki has. [[User:Novov|Novov]] ([[User talk:Novov|talk]]) 08:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
+==Method==
+Export as Plain SVG.
+Open - realign to center and middle