House of Ailly - Revision history

Finellach at 13:07, 7 May 2025

2025-05-07T13:07:18Z

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	Ailly Sains.svg\|[[House of Ailly-Sains]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|[[House of Ailly-Sains]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
	Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->		Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
			D'Ailly.svg\|House of Albert d'Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Vidames of Amiens<br>Dukes of Chaulnes<br>Matrilineal branch</span><!-- extinct 1698 -->
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	<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->		<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->

Finellach at 01:52, 16 March 2021

2021-03-16T01:52:42Z

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	Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>		Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>
	Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>		Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>
	Ailly Picquigny.svg\|House of Ailly-Picquigny<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval<br> and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->		Ailly Picquigny.svg\|[[House of Ailly-Picquigny]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval<br> and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->
	Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|[[House of Ailly-Sains]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
	Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->		Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
	Ailly Annery.svg\|[[House of Ailly-La Mairie]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Brach, Quiry-Le-Verd, La Mairie and Pierrepont<br>Uncertain cadency<br>Possible illegitimate branch</span>
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	<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->		<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->

JSpuller at 10:07, 13 February 2021

2021-02-13T10:07:25Z

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	Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
	Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->		Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
	Ailly Annery.svg\|[[House of Ailly-La Mairie]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Brach, Quiry-Le-Verd, La Mairie and Pierrepont<br>Uncertain cadency<br>~~Posibble~~ illegitimate branch</span>		Ailly Annery.svg\|[[House of Ailly-La Mairie]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Brach, Quiry-Le-Verd, La Mairie and Pierrepont<br>Uncertain cadency<br>Possible illegitimate branch</span>
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	<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->		<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->

Finellach at 05:57, 10 November 2020

2020-11-10T05:57:12Z

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	<gallery caption="Cadet Branches" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Cadet Branches" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
			Ailly Domqueur.svg\|House of Ailly-Domqueur<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Domqueur<br>Issued from Gérard, illegitiamte son of Raoul II d’Ailly</span>
	Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>		Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>
	Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>		Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>
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	Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
	Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->		Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
			Ailly Annery.svg\|[[House of Ailly-La Mairie]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Brach, Quiry-Le-Verd, La Mairie and Pierrepont<br>Uncertain cadency<br>Posibble illegitimate branch</span>
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	<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->		<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->

	<gallery caption="Personal Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Personal Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	Tassart de Sains 1352.svg\|Tassart de Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">1352<br>Conjectured Tinctures</span><!-- Tassart dit Brisegaud 1352, Colart dit l'Aigle (a dynastic name & surname used by the Ailly-Sains too) 1370, Baudoin 1380 // Probable descendants of Raoul d'Ailly, lord of Sains -->		Wijnbergen 790 Hugues d'Ailly.svg\|Hugues d'Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Rumes<br>Younger son of Robert II d'Ailly<br>Progenitor of Rumes branch<br>Arms in ''Wijnbergen Armorial''</span>
			Tassart de Sains 1352.svg\|Tassart de Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lord of Sains<br>Seal of 1352<br>Conjectured Tinctures</span><!-- Tassart dit Brisegaud 1352, Colart dit l'Aigle (a dynastic name & surname used by the Ailly-Sains too) 1370, Baudoin 1380 // Probable descendants of Raoul d'Ailly, lord of Sains -->
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Finellach at 20:03, 9 November 2020

2020-11-09T20:03:50Z

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	<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span>		D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt<br> and Monflières</span>
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	Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>		Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>
	Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>		Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>
	Ailly Picquigny.svg\|House of Ailly-Picquigny<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->		Ailly Picquigny.svg\|House of Ailly-Picquigny<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval<br> and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->
	Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
	Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->		Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
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Solo at 14:31, 20 October 2019

2019-10-20T14:31:18Z

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	<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span><!-- I trust you mean you will correct this entry then replace the one in the Wijnbergen to merge them ? In doubt : the tinctures in medieval armorials are always argent & azure : cf Wijnbergen, Le Breton, Cambrai, Bergshammar & Urfé and I dont think they were ever inverted later -->		D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span>
	D'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye<br>Lords and Barons of Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens</span><!-- Robert IV d'Ailly had only a daughter Catherine who inherited Ailly, the line is then continued by Robert IV's younger brother Bauduin who inherits the lands from his mother, heiress of Picquigny // It's debatable really. She still inherited all of her father's original possessions, and those ultimately went to her second husband, not her uncles who had started lines with different arms & possessions - Baudoin himself adopted the arms of Picquigny, before quartering them with Ailly and those quartered arms would fit much better as the "modern" arms (for the record I would still place his line as cadet branch as he never actually inherited from his older brother), and on the page of the "viscounty" (which it's not, as I'm sure you already noticed) // As for the arms with the whitebeam branches, they were adopted by the provençal house of Albert, not Ailly - I had long noticed those surprising arms to give them here and on the title pages but never got to editing them out - Not starting an edit back & forth ofc so I'll leave everything like this like you said, but it's a different family -->
	</gallery>		</gallery>

	<gallery caption="Cadet Branches" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Cadet Branches" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>		Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>
	<!-- ~~Ailly-~~Picquigny~~, lords~~ of P, ~~vidames~~ of ~~Amiens : quartered Ailly~~ & ~~Picquigny~~ - ext c. 1620 ~~into House of~~ Albert ~~= House of Ailly~~ d'~~Annebault~~ (adopted the ~~arms w/ two whitebeam branches~~) -->		Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>
	<!-- Ailly-Le Quesnoy ~~(dit Sarrazin), lords~~ of Le Quesnoy ~~and Airaines : quartered Ailly & Or three oak leaves Vert --~~>		Ailly Picquigny.svg\|House of Ailly-Picquigny<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->
	<!-- ~~Ailly~~-~~Sains, lords of Sains : quartered Ailly & Argent three bends Gules~~ -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
			Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
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			<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->

	<!-- ~~Unfinished~~, ~~leave it like this for now arms need to be made and some corrected i.e. tinctures reversed~~, ~~etc.~~ -->		<gallery caption="Personal Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
			Tassart de Sains 1352.svg\|Tassart de Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">1352<br>Conjectured Tinctures</span><!-- Tassart dit Brisegaud 1352, Colart dit l'Aigle (a dynastic name & surname used by the Ailly-Sains too) 1370, Baudoin 1380 // Probable descendants of Raoul d'Ailly, lord of Sains -->
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Solo at 17:28, 15 October 2019

2019-10-15T17:28:23Z

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	<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span>		D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span><!-- I trust you mean you will correct this entry then replace the one in the Wijnbergen to merge them ? In doubt : the tinctures in medieval armorials are always argent & azure : cf Wijnbergen, Le Breton, Cambrai, Bergshammar & Urfé and I dont think they were ever inverted later -->
	D'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye<br>Lords and Barons of Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens</span><!-- Robert IV d'Ailly had only a daughter Catherine who inherited Ailly, the line is then continued by Robert IV's younger brother Bauduin who inherits the lands from his mother, heiress of Picquigny -->		D'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye<br>Lords and Barons of Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens</span><!-- Robert IV d'Ailly had only a daughter Catherine who inherited Ailly, the line is then continued by Robert IV's younger brother Bauduin who inherits the lands from his mother, heiress of Picquigny // It's debatable really. She still inherited all of her father's original possessions, and those ultimately went to her second husband, not her uncles who had started lines with different arms & possessions - Baudoin himself adopted the arms of Picquigny, before quartering them with Ailly and those quartered arms would fit much better as the "modern" arms (for the record I would still place his line as cadet branch as he never actually inherited from his older brother), and on the page of the "viscounty" (which it's not, as I'm sure you already noticed) // As for the arms with the whitebeam branches, they were adopted by the provençal house of Albert, not Ailly - I had long noticed those surprising arms to give them here and on the title pages but never got to editing them out - Not starting an edit back & forth ofc so I'll leave everything like this like you said, but it's a different family -->
	</gallery>		</gallery>

Finellach at 15:10, 15 October 2019

2019-10-15T15:10:28Z

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	<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	~~Wijnbergen 789 Robert d~~'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span><!-- ~~Main branch extinct c.1400~~ -->		D'Ailly Ancient.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span>
			D'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Raineval, Vignacourt and La Broye<br>Lords and Barons of Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens</span><!-- Robert IV d'Ailly had only a daughter Catherine who inherited Ailly, the line is then continued by Robert IV's younger brother Bauduin who inherits the lands from his mother, heiress of Picquigny -->
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	<!-- Ailly-Sains, lords of Sains : quartered Ailly & Argent three bends Gules -->		<!-- Ailly-Sains, lords of Sains : quartered Ailly & Argent three bends Gules -->
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Solo at 08:02, 15 October 2019

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	<gallery caption="Cadet Branches" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Cadet Branches" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Adopted the name and arms from House of Rumes</span>		Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>
	<!-- Ailly-Picquigny, lords of P, vidames of Amiens : quartered Ailly & Picquigny - ext c. 1620 into House of Albert = House of Ailly d'Annebault (adopted the arms w/ two whitebeam branches) -->		<!-- Ailly-Picquigny, lords of P, vidames of Amiens : quartered Ailly & Picquigny - ext c. 1620 into House of Albert = House of Ailly d'Annebault (adopted the arms w/ two whitebeam branches) -->
	<!-- Ailly-Le Quesnoy (dit Sarrazin), lords of Le Quesnoy and Airaines : quartered Ailly & Or three oak leaves Vert -->		<!-- Ailly-Le Quesnoy (dit Sarrazin), lords of Le Quesnoy and Airaines : quartered Ailly & Or three oak leaves Vert -->
	<!-- Ailly-Sains, lords of Sains : quartered Ailly & Argent three bends Gules -->		<!-- Ailly-Sains, lords of Sains : quartered Ailly & Argent three bends Gules -->
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Solo at 07:34, 15 October 2019

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	<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">		<gallery caption="Coat of Arms" align=center style= "color: #292929;font-size:1.2em;font-weight: normal;text-align:center;font-style: normal;">
	Wijnbergen 789 Robert d'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and ~~Montflières~~</span><!-- Main branch extinct c.1400 -->		Wijnbergen 789 Robert d'Ailly.svg\|House of Ailly<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Ailly, Bellancourt and Monflières</span><!-- Main branch extinct c.1400 -->
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	Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>		Ailly-Formelles.svg\|House of Ailly-Formelles<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Formelles<br>Issued from Maurice, 2nd son of Hugues I</span>
	Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>		Rumes.svg\|House of Rumes<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Bellancourt, Hornaing and Rumes<br>Issued from Hugues, 2nd son of Robert II<br>Adopted the name and arms from [[House of Rumes]]</span>
	Ailly Picquigny.svg\|House of Ailly-Picquigny<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval<br> and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->		Ailly Picquigny.svg\|[[House of Ailly-Picquigny]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Vignacourt, Raineval<br> and Picquigny<br>Vidames of Amiens<br>Issued from Baudoin, 3rd son of Robert III</span><!-- Picquigny & Raineval - Seal of Baudoin dit ''Beaujois'' 1385 - ext c 1620 cf Albert d'Ailly - Later arms with crossed whitebeam branches (Alisiers) poss. adopted by this branch (used as supporters for the shields on their seals) -->
	Ailly Sains.svg\|House of Sains<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->		Ailly Sains.svg\|[[House of Ailly-Sains]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Cavron, Margny<br> and Sains<br>Issued from Nicolas, 4th son of Robert III</span><!-- There's a previous first branch of Sains from Raoul, another brother of Robert II and Maurice but it's not well documented tbh (cf arms below with bend) -->
	Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->		Ailly Quesnoy.svg\|House of Ailly-Le Quesnoy<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Airaines and Le Quesnoy<br>Issued from Mathieu, 5th son of Robert III</span><!-- Airaines & Quesnoy-sur-Airaines -->
	Ailly Annery.svg\|[[House of Ailly-La Mairie]]<br><span style="font-size:88%; line-height: 1.3em;">Lords of Brach, Quiry-Le-Verd, La Mairie and Pierrepont<br>Uncertain cadency<br>Possible illegitimate branch</span>
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	<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->		<!-- Several other branches with unknown or uncertain arms & connection : Domqueur (illegitimate line ? w/ bend senester), Annery (later Marquisate of Annebaut, not connected - w/ plain arms - survived to 19th c.), Varennes (from Ailly-Picquigny), Pont Rémy -->