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==New Arms requests==
 
==New Arms requests==
 
'''Illeshazy''' or rather '''Illésházy''' - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II3.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/COA_Illeshazy_Miklos.jpg example 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II4.jpg example 3]., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Gaspar_Thurzo_Ilona.jpg example 4]. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: [https://static-cdn.arcanum.hu/nfo-resources/siebmacher_pic/siebmacher/b826-197-01.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Trencin_hradny_relief_z_roku_1609_Illeshazy.jpg example 2], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/a/a8/Ill%C3%A9sh%C3%A1zy_Istv%C3%A1n_n%C3%A1dor_pecs%C3%A9tje.jpg example 3], [https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/kozterkep/photos/u3952-a39801-5df54032d2c0c-b4d9c14bbe8592360e90aff9_1.jpg example 4], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II2.jpg example 5], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Keresztelo_Janos_Batthyany_Szidonia.jpg example 6], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy1.jpg example 7], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy2.jpg example 8], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_I1.jpg example 9],  etc, etc.<br>
 
'''Illeshazy''' or rather '''Illésházy''' - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II3.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/COA_Illeshazy_Miklos.jpg example 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II4.jpg example 3]., [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Gaspar_Thurzo_Ilona.jpg example 4]. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: [https://static-cdn.arcanum.hu/nfo-resources/siebmacher_pic/siebmacher/b826-197-01.jpg example 1], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Trencin_hradny_relief_z_roku_1609_Illeshazy.jpg example 2], [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/a/a8/Ill%C3%A9sh%C3%A1zy_Istv%C3%A1n_n%C3%A1dor_pecs%C3%A9tje.jpg example 3], [https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/kozterkep/photos/u3952-a39801-5df54032d2c0c-b4d9c14bbe8592360e90aff9_1.jpg example 4], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_II2.jpg example 5], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Keresztelo_Janos_Batthyany_Szidonia.jpg example 6], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy1.jpg example 7], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy2.jpg example 8], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COA_Illeshazy_Istvan_I1.jpg example 9],  etc, etc.<br>
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'''Borja Mayalde''' or '''Borgia Mayalde''' - Counts of Mayalde, branch of the Dukes of Gandia. Arms is that of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Aragon_Montalto.svg Aragon-Naples] with a [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Borgia.svg inescutcheon of Borgia]. [https://gw.geneanet.org/public/img/media/deposits/b7/fd/3702251/medium.gif?t=1449562146 example 1]<br>
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'''Gurrea de Borja''' - Another branch of Borgia/Borja of Gandia. Counts of Ficalho. This would be the small variant of the arms, it is literally dimidiated/joint variant of Gurrea which is Gules, two wolves passant Or armed and langued azure. We have arms with [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Villafranca_del_Bierzo.svg dimidiated wolves] but on opposite side...[http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Borgia_Gandia.svg same for Borgia]. [https://gw.geneanet.org/public/img/media/deposits/a7/a0/3702257/medium.gif?t=1449562148 example found as escutcheon on this arms]. <br>
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'''Borja Villahermosa''' - great arms of the above as Dukes of Villahermosa. Arms is that of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Villahermosa.svg Villahermosa branch of Trastamara] with the escutcheon of Gurrea de Borja branch. Example seen above<br>
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'''Borja Alcanices''' - also referred to as ''Enriquez de Borja''. They were successors of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Enriquez_de_Almansa.svg Enriquez de Almansa] family as Marquises of Alcañices. Arms is joining of Borja/Borgia with their arms...[https://gw.geneanet.org/public/img/media/deposits/da/a8/3701716/medium.gif?t=1449561907 example seen here]<br>
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'''Ribagorza Villahermosa''' - Line of [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Juan_II_de_Ribagorza.svg Counts of Ribagorza] as Dukes of Villahermosa. Difference is 4th quarter which is Sicily as on [http://wappenwiki.org/images/5/58/Philip_V_Naples.svg this arms] and the escutcheon is that of Gurrea family which is mentioned above...red shield with two wolves passant similar to [http://wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Osorio.svg Osorio family] but with reversed tinctures<br>
  
 
==Livro requests==
 
==Livro requests==

Revision as of 15:13, 24 January 2021

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New Arms requests

Illeshazy or rather Illésházy - Barons and counts. Their arms shows a blue shield with a black eagle being pierced by an arrow, the stance of the eagle (or hawk?) is somewhat different on some variants regarding the fact is it being pierced or also holding an arrow in its beak. First variant examples: example 1, example 2, example 3., example 4. However I believe this variant is actually just a simple variant of how the arms is really supposed to look which is shown in far more prevalent variant which shows the eagle having a bit of a different stance: example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4, example 5, example 6, example 7, example 8, example 9, etc, etc.

Borja Mayalde or Borgia Mayalde - Counts of Mayalde, branch of the Dukes of Gandia. Arms is that of Aragon-Naples with a inescutcheon of Borgia. example 1

Gurrea de Borja - Another branch of Borgia/Borja of Gandia. Counts of Ficalho. This would be the small variant of the arms, it is literally dimidiated/joint variant of Gurrea which is Gules, two wolves passant Or armed and langued azure. We have arms with dimidiated wolves but on opposite side...same for Borgia. example found as escutcheon on this arms.

Borja Villahermosa - great arms of the above as Dukes of Villahermosa. Arms is that of Villahermosa branch of Trastamara with the escutcheon of Gurrea de Borja branch. Example seen above

Borja Alcanices - also referred to as Enriquez de Borja. They were successors of Enriquez de Almansa family as Marquises of Alcañices. Arms is joining of Borja/Borgia with their arms...example seen here

Ribagorza Villahermosa - Line of Counts of Ribagorza as Dukes of Villahermosa. Difference is 4th quarter which is Sicily as on this arms and the escutcheon is that of Gurrea family which is mentioned above...red shield with two wolves passant similar to Osorio family but with reversed tinctures

Livro requests

Lago - Arms of Lago - no need for elaboration, the image pretty much speaks for itself
Gil Vantvisyet - Livro image, quartered Or and Azure, not sure what those things are in 1st and 4th quarter but it sure looks like some kind of shoes. 2nd and 3rd quarter a moor's head, over all a cross gules hollow argent

Pachecho Livro - source image. The arms of Pachecho in Livro seems like a hybrid of several cauldron variants we have: Pachecho, Manrique de Lara, Lara Ancient. The elements on the cauldron seem to be vaire nebuly similar to Vasconcelos f.e.

Gabriel Goncalves - source image. Arms is double-headed eagle holding a moor's head, all withing a "rope bordure" similar to Eca i.e. Eça arms.

Botos - source image shows a shield divided per saltire Or and gules, Or quarters charged with a Moor's head, gules quarters charged with argent towers

Viveiro - source image shows a shield quartered. 1st and 4th quarter are similar to Guzman or Manrique de Lara cauldorns (not so many serpent heads), cauldrons are completely chequy argent and gules on a azure field, bordure ermine. 1st and 3rd quarter are a variant of Fajardo quarters, water part seems smaller on this variant than on the example linked, while the branches are intertwined in a saltire.




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Question: is the Petit arms of the Anglo-Norman-Irish Le Petit family (feudal barons of Dunboyne) of Ireland? I've been looking for these before but couldn't find anything specific. If it is then great! :)
Oh and also the new de Lucy and Gadda arms you uploaded...well you should link them bcz I have no idea what they are lol...I know Thomas de Lucy (azure and argent) was most likely the arms of Thomas who was the younger brother of Anthony, 1st Baron Lucy but I don't know the other ones...specifically this one and this one, are they variants? Also the ancient arms...the thing is there were at last three Lucy lines that passed through heiresses who had childrent who adopted the de Lucy name. Cheers. Finellach (talk) 16:47, 25 May 2020 (CEST)

Forgot to answer this, the Petit arms is the arms of Petit/Petyt, lords of Ardevora in Cornwall.
You linked all the Gädda/Gedda arms correct. :) Regarding the Lucy arms, I haven't had time to unravel the family yet but here are the sources for the uploaded arms:

Some feudal coats of arms from heraldic rolls, 1298-1418 / Joseph Foster. 1902

Lucy, Sir Geffrey
(E. 11. Roll) bore, gules, two lucies pileways argent; Holland Roll.

Lucy, Geffrey de, of Cockermouth, baron
1297-bore, gules, three lucies hauriant 2 and 1 argent ( F.) Ashmole Roll; or,
in Arden and Glover Rolls-ascribed to RICHARD in the Grimaldi Roll, and so carried
at the siege of Rouen 1418, THOMAS, differenced at the second Dunstable tournament
1334 with a label azure and a bordure engrailed argent (F.); also by ANTHONY or AMERY
in Jenyns' Ordinary-4 lucies in blason. Sir WILLIAM bore the paternal coat crusily argent; Harl. 1481, ff. 59-65.

Lucy, Sir Amery (AYMER or EMERY)
Kent-(H. 111, Roll) bore, azure crusily and three lucies 2 and 1 hauriant or; Parliamentary,
Howard, St. George and Dering Rolls. Sir THOMAS, of Kent. bore the lucies argent; Parliamentary Roll

Lucy Geoffrey of Kent,
(H. III. Roll) bore, gules, crusily ol three lucies and 2 and 1 or
(F.); Parliamentary Roll, & REYNOLD differenced with a label (3) azure ; Surrey Roll.
See Harl. 1481 ff. 59, 65.

Lucy Arms and Full Pedigree Chart 950-1900

https://rickmansworthherts.com/arms3.htm

JSpuller (talk) 11:22, 3 June 2020 (CEST)


Question - What are these two arms: William Willoughby; Robert Willoughby. Are they for some armorial or what is the deal? I cannot place them anywhere. I know Willoughby family in fact adopted the arms of Bec/Beke which is the gules, cross moline argent over their ancient arms Or, fretty azure. but as said I cannot place these... Finellach (talk) 08:07, 26 October 2020 (CET)

Various sources but they are taken from ’Some feudal arms’ by Joseph Foster 1902, https://archive.org/details/somefeudalcoatso00fostrich
Willoughby, Sir Robert, knighted at the capitulation of Calais 1348 -bore, gules a cross recercelée argent, a bundle sable (F.) and without the bendlet for Sir Robert banneret (H. VI. Roll) as a cross moline., Arundel Roll; a fer-de-mouline in Parly. Roll.

Willoughby, William de - bore, at the second Dunstable tournament 1334, gules a fer-de-mouline ermine. F. JSpuller (talk) 21:01, 26 October 2020 (CET)