User talk:JSpuller
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- For update
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Adding this here as well so I don't forget to update it. Edit: agreed, my recent "update" was more of a small fix so the current arms is more-less a token until properly made/updated.
This is merely a little heads up that I am revamping quartered eagles and other smaller eagles so they fit the area of the shield better. Similar to the quartered lions.
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CoA is out of alignment, stroke of the letters, escutcheon should be standardized (we have Alabama arms) and the eagle hand holding arrows should be fixed.
Oginski
Czetwertyński/Chetvertinsky
Svyatopolk-Chetvertinsky
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Needs bunch of corrections, stroke, etc. probably an entire re-work of the main charge
New Arms requests
Mackay - Lords of Strathnaver (before they sold it to Earls of Sutherland) and Lords (Barons) Reay of Reay. Ancient family/clan from northern Scotland which claims descent from original MacHeth Earls/Maormers of Ross. Their arms is this. It is very similar to arms of branch of Clan Forbes, namely of the branch of Balfluig except that the daggers are tinctured proper and held by hands, also as can be seen instead of the heart there is a stag head proper such as on this Gordon arms. The similarity between Mackay and Forbes arms is presumed to be due to centuries old close alliance of Clan Forbes and Clan Mackay against the Clan Gordon. Few more examples: example1, example2. Also a small note, the chevron on Mackay should actually be gold/yellow as is shown on example1 despite what other images show. All the official sources say the chevron is gold/yellow: Scots Peerage, Burke's Peerage, Clan Mackay book Finellach (talk) 23:44, 7 September 2020 (CEST)
Livro requests
Lago - Arms of Lago - no need for elaboration, the image pretty much speaks for itself
Gil Vantvisyet - Livro image, quartered Or and Azure, not sure what those things are in 1st and 4th quarter but it sure looks like some kind of shoes. 2nd and 3rd quarter a moor's head, over all a cross gules hollow argent
Pachecho Livro - source image. The arms of Pachecho in Livro seems like a hybrid of several cauldron variants we have: Pachecho, Manrique de Lara, Lara Ancient. The elements on the cauldron seem to be vaire nebuly similar to Vasconcelos f.e.
Gabriel Goncalves - source image. Arms is double-headed eagle holding a moor's head, all withing a "rope bordure" similar to Eca i.e. Eça arms.
Botos - source image shows a shield divided per saltire Or and gules, Or quarters charged with a Moor's head, gules quarters charged with argent towers
Viveiro - source image shows a shield quartered. 1st and 4th quarter are similar to Guzman or Manrique de Lara cauldorns (not so many serpent heads), cauldrons are completely chequy argent and gules on a azure field, bordure ermine. 1st and 3rd quarter are a variant of Fajardo quarters, water part seems smaller on this variant than on the example linked, while the branches are intertwined in a saltire.
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Question: is the Petit arms of the Anglo-Norman-Irish Le Petit family (feudal barons of Dunboyne) of Ireland? I've been looking for these before but couldn't find anything specific. If it is then great! :)
Oh and also the new de Lucy and Gadda arms you uploaded...well you should link them bcz I have no idea what they are lol...I know Thomas de Lucy (azure and argent) was most likely the arms of Thomas who was the younger brother of Anthony, 1st Baron Lucy but I don't know the other ones...specifically this one and this one, are they variants? Also the ancient arms...the thing is there were at last three Lucy lines that passed through heiresses who had childrent who adopted the de Lucy name. Cheers. Finellach (talk) 16:47, 25 May 2020 (CEST)
Forgot to answer this, the Petit arms is the arms of Petit/Petyt, lords of Ardevora in Cornwall.
You linked all the Gädda/Gedda arms correct. :)
Regarding the Lucy arms, I haven't had time to unravel the family yet but here are the sources for the uploaded arms:
Some feudal coats of arms from heraldic rolls, 1298-1418 / Joseph Foster. 1902
Lucy, Sir Geffrey
(E. 11. Roll) bore, gules, two lucies pileways argent; Holland Roll.
Lucy, Geffrey de, of Cockermouth, baron
1297-bore, gules, three lucies hauriant 2 and 1 argent ( F.) Ashmole Roll; or,
in Arden and Glover Rolls-ascribed to RICHARD in the Grimaldi Roll, and so carried
at the siege of Rouen 1418, THOMAS, differenced at the second Dunstable tournament
1334 with a label azure and a bordure engrailed argent (F.); also by ANTHONY or AMERY
in Jenyns' Ordinary-4 lucies in blason. Sir WILLIAM bore the paternal coat crusily argent; Harl. 1481, ff. 59-65.
Lucy, Sir Amery (AYMER or EMERY)
Kent-(H. 111, Roll) bore, azure crusily and three lucies 2 and 1 hauriant or; Parliamentary,
Howard, St. George and Dering Rolls. Sir THOMAS, of Kent. bore the lucies argent; Parliamentary Roll
Lucy Geoffrey of Kent,
(H. III. Roll) bore, gules, crusily ol three lucies and 2 and 1 or
(F.); Parliamentary Roll, & REYNOLD differenced with a label (3) azure ; Surrey Roll.
See Harl. 1481 ff. 59, 65.
Lucy Arms and Full Pedigree Chart 950-1900
https://rickmansworthherts.com/arms3.htm
JSpuller (talk) 11:22, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
BTW the "leaping lion" is also called "lion salient", the differences in f.e. Felbrigge arms and Petit arms we have right now is literally difference in artistic representation how these lions are drawn. So Felbrigge, Le Petit, Talbot of Basshall should all be standardizing otherwise we will have two different styles of the same lion on the site which is weird. Also Inglis of Cramond should also have "leaping lion" ("lion salient") instead of rampant...lion rampant is a mistake by me. Finellach (talk) 03:46, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
Yes, leaping/salient is the same posture. I've updated the other arms as well. JSpuller (talk) 11:22, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
